Dallas erupts in gunfire at BLM protest

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said that, i was answering the other moron who apparently thought we had sticks and stones for weapons.

Does it matter what weapons you have when French people are using them? When was the last time France won a military encounter with . . . anyone?

• France was kicked out of Cambodia by the Viet Cong (Dien Bien Phu being the crowning disaster).
• France was conquered by the Germans in WW II in a mere month after years preparing for war by building the Maginot Line.
• France kind of didn't lose vs Germany in WW I, but Britain (naval blockade) and the US (additional ground troops that countered Germany's new tactics in 1917) actually did the heavy lifting.
• France was soundly beaten by Prussia in 1870, losing two provinces
• France fought Austria to a draw in 1859 (the battle was such a disaster for both sides that it led to the creation of the Red Cross)
• Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.
• Louis XIV didn't exactly win the War of Spanish Succession; his grandson was forced to forfeit his claim to the crown of France and he was beaten by Marlborough at Blenheim among others.
• France was partially conquered by the English for most of the Middle Ages, with famous victories at Crecy and Agincourt.

I guess you have to go back to William the Conquerer and the invasion of England (1050 AD) and Charles Martel halting the Moors at Poitiers (750 AD) for real French military success.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.

Nonsense. Summing up Napoleonic France's legacy like this is like saying Nazi Germany had no military success because in the end it was eventually defeated and conquered.

Every country has a litany of embarrassing military incompetence, including the United States. Germany, in spite of probably being the greatest military culture of modern times (laid the foundational doctrine for the modern US military), ended up on the losing side of two world wars and lost half its territory. At least the French were smart enough diplomatically to end up on the winning side each time.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does it matter what weapons you have when French people are using them? When was the last time France won a military encounter with . . . anyone?

• France was kicked out of Cambodia by the Viet Cong (Dien Bien Phu being the crowning disaster).
• France was conquered by the Germans in WW II in a mere month after years preparing for war by building the Maginot Line.
• France kind of didn't lose vs Germany in WW I, but Britain (naval blockade) and the US (additional ground troops that countered Germany's new tactics in 1917) actually did the heavy lifting.
• France was soundly beaten by Prussia in 1870, losing two provinces
• France fought Austria to a draw in 1859 (the battle was such a disaster for both sides that it led to the creation of the Red Cross)
• Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.
• Louis XIV didn't exactly win the War of Spanish Succession; his grandson was forced to forfeit his claim to the crown of France and he was beaten by Marlborough at Blenheim among others.
• France was partially conquered by the English for most of the Middle Ages, with famous victories at Crecy and Agincourt.

I guess you have to go back to William the Conquerer and the invasion of England (1050 AD) and Charles Martel halting the Moors at Poitiers (750 AD) for real French military success.

oh damn, you're really good at copypasta, are you ? if half of this were true, France wouldn't exist today. try to think on your own for once:

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.militaryfactory.com/battl..._victories.asp

..and for the lulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] : https://warisboring.com/the-french-s...2ca#.7o2z2ts0d + http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...ier-group.html

i understand you guys are fed since your younger age by hollywood that USA is the greatest and mightiest and saves the world every day, but real world is not that simple.. damn i even remember that movie where USA decipher enigma during WWII and saves the world.. when it's actually the brits that deciphered enigma. Hell even the next Battlefield set in world war one won't even have the french or russian.. Hell i even had someone told me that USA won WW2 on their own. That's just downright disrespectful to the russians that actually have just as many credit than the US, not even mentioning the many many nationalities including australians, canadians, new zealander and yes, even free french.. that died in the normandy landings. Makes you wonder who's rewriting history, right ? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Lune

Every country has a litany of embarrassing military incompetence, including the United States.

Sure, but we at least win SOME of the time. In fact, the US has won (French and Indian War (again, everyone beats the French), War of Independence, War of 1812, Mexican War, Spanish-American War, WW 1, WW 2, Korea, Iraq 1) a lot more than we have lost (Vietnam, Iraq 2 (nominally a win, but c'mon)).

Originally Posted by Lune

At least the French were smart enough diplomatically to end up on the winning side each time.

We can agree the French are successful diplomats! Talleyrand sounds like a great guy to have dinner with.

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh damn, you're really good at copypasta, are you ?

You take that back you French whore! Every word of that came from my personal brain.

Originally Posted by Jarnauga

]if half of this were true, France wouldn't exist today.

All of it is true you tool. In your long ragepost you failed to point out a single error.

Originally Posted by Jarnauga

i understand you guys are fed since your younger age by hollywood that USA is the greatest and mightiest and saves the world every day, but real world is not that simple.

You can argue about the relative contributions of the US, UK, and USSR vs Nazi Germany. What you can't argue is that France got slapped like a redheaded stepchild.

[Pokesan]

Was it France or the United States that lost the Iraq war?

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You take that back you French whore! Every word of that came from my personal brain.


All of it is true you tool. In your long ragepost you failed to point out a single error.


You can argue about the relative contributions of the US, UK, and USSR vs Nazi Germany. What you can't argue is that France got slapped like a redheaded stepchild.

Yes Raev, we survived Prussia, the Ottoman empire and 800 years of continuous rivalry with England, but we lost every-single-battle-ever. I'm not gonna do the military history of a 2000 year old country, i'm sure you can find that by yourself on the internet.. and i don't mean dick cheney's blog.

Oh and yeah, we got totally bitchslapped by the germans. Nobody denies that. Just like pretty much everyone on continental europe, remember the polish beat in 3 days ..? do you think they're scum ? i could tell you how the Free French Forces didn't accept the defeat and kept on fighting mainly in north africa, but i wonder if you would believe it since michael bay never made a movie about it.

At least americans at the time weren't the cocky little shitstains that you get as republican candidates now. ( cf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbfcRu4UPbg one of the best movie ever made <3 )

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Archalen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm so glad you said this. This is the kind of thing I assume lies in the dark corners of many conservatives minds but they just won't come out and say it.

You mean the TRUTH, we say it a lot you dumbasses can't comprehend it.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes Raev, we survived Prussia, the Ottoman empire and 800 years of continuous rivalry with England, but we lost every-single-battle-ever. I'm not gonna do the military history of a 2000 year old country

So first you claim everything I wrote was wrong, then you claim you don't know?

I'm just feeling bad for you at this point, so let me simply say that my troll post was a great example of correct but biased writing. Basically when France lost the battle and won the war, I said they lost the battle. When France won the battle and lost the war, I said they lost the war. Lune kind of figured this out, because despite his socialist tendencies he's basically a smart guy.

Still, even with a less biased approach, France has come out second best quite frequently vs England and Germany (let's not mention my native Italy which managed to lose with tanks vs Ethiopian spearmen). I'm sure there is a suitably racist explanation for it all.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So first you claim everything I wrote was wrong, then you claim you don't know?

I'm just feeling bad for you at this point, so let me simply say that my troll post was a great example of correct but biased writing. Basically when France lost the battle and won the war, I said they lost the battle. When France won the battle and lost the war, I said they lost the war. Lune kind of figured this out, because despite his socialist tendencies he's basically a smart guy.

Still, even with a less biased approach, France has come out second best quite frequently vs England and Germany (let's not mention my native Italy which managed to lose with tanks vs Ethiopian spearmen). I'm sure there is a suitably racist explanation for it all.

Battle of menton in June of 1940: 9 french soldiers against 5000 italians. After 800 losses for none on the french side, italians just waited for the armistice. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (cf: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/06/...hall-not-pass/ )

as for the military history, i already provided you with a link here: http://www.militaryfactory.com/battl..._victories.asp

Tally is, on 191 wars/battles etc etc:

119 wins (62,3%)
54 losses (28,3%)
18 draws (9,4%)

Not too bad for a country smaller than texas.

[Jarnauga]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aYXetC9VGo

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]