Give Red 10% of your population

[Mleh]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not showing anything. I'm not the one making the threads that are all but begging blue players to come play red almost daily. However, we can agree that the threads need to stop.

I get that red needs fresh meat to gank but it's clearly not going to come from blue. Maybe you guys can do a "simulated fresh meat" lotto system where you draw straws and 10 of the 50 people playing on red who draw the short straw have to role a new character and try to level while the other 40 grief/gank/"own" or whatever it is you guys do to each other over there for your jollies that makes nobody want to play with you.

I'm a fairly new player to Red, I started back in March. I leveled on Red and my first two deaths were in Velks at 50+

http://www.r99pvp.net/showplayer.php?p=Mleh

I'm fairly slippery when it comes to EQ PvP, but the point is that its not a giant grief fest. The 5-10 players that have annoying twink alts don't play constantly, and if you don't level in Mistmoore you may never even see them.

The "every twink is always playing and has a level 60 healer" myth is just that - bullshit. Most twinks have no fear of dying because generally people can't contest a fungi tunic at low levels anyhow.

It's really annoying to read these opinions in addition to implying we're a server that's begging people to show up so we can grief them.

[Blitzers]

Promise me a Manastone + Fungi and I'll roll a Shammy

[Maschenny]

Every guild on blue should be forced to send a player off to the hunger games each month.

[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by Mleh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a fairly new player to Red, I started back in March. I leveled on Red and my first two deaths were in Velks at 50+

http://www.r99pvp.net/showplayer.php?p=Mleh

I'm fairly slippery when it comes to EQ PvP, but the point is that its not a giant grief fest. The 5-10 players that have annoying twink alts don't play constantly, and if you don't level in Mistmoore you may never even see them.

The "every twink is always playing and has a level 60 healer" myth is just that - bullshit. Most twinks have no fear of dying because generally people can't contest a fungi tunic at low levels anyhow.

It's really annoying to read these opinions in addition to implying we're a server that's begging people to show up so we can grief them.

Just because the server is now a 50 person ghost town from previous activity doesn't mean it's a myth. It just means all the people have already been driven away and there isn't anyone left to grief or gank.

[surron]

^ dude has a lvl 33 as his max yet is so knowledgeable about red?

red was the most fun i've ever had on eq, it probably is still just as fun

[Qtip]

Originally Posted by surron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ dude has a lvl 33 as his max yet is so knowledgeable about red?

red was the most fun i've ever had on eq, it probably is still just as fun

Haha. Reading these posts are pure gold.

Then go read every post in blue server chat/rants and its some cry baby about how they got there camp or mob stolen. If you're a cry baby who likes to sit in the ec tunnel all day, blues for you!

[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by surron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ dude has a lvl 33 as his max yet is so knowledgeable about red?

red was the most fun i've ever had on eq, it probably is still just as fun

It's true. I have no experience on red myself. However, when talking about PvP there are some things constant across all PvP games. I have experienced it time and time again. Read the negative experiences people post here and they are the same ones people complain about in every PvP game.

I'm not saying you are wrong for enjoying it. Some people do enjoy it but there is a reason most PvE players hate PvP which is why red only has 50 people on it.

[Damn]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not showing anything. I'm not the one making the threads that are all but begging blue players to come play red almost daily. However, we can agree that the threads need to stop.

I get that red needs fresh meat to gank but it's clearly not going to come from blue. Maybe you guys can do a "simulated fresh meat" lotto system where you draw straws and 10 of the 50 people playing on red who draw the short straw have to role a new character and try to level while the other 40 grief/gank/"own" or whatever it is you guys do to each other over there for your jollies that makes nobody want to play with you.

That would actually be alot of fun to try like everquest in survival mode

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Damn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would actually be alot of fun to try like everquest in survival mode

I always figure EQ is best played from a horror survival perspective. I mean there are zombies and everything!

[Brontus]

If they get rid of PVP on Red then I would consider starting some characters there. Throughout my 17 year career playing MMORPGs every time I decide to try a PVP server I soon encounter griefers and gankers lurking everywhere just waiting to make my life a living hell. You try to level up, you are killed. You try to travel, you are killed. From my experience, open PVP in MMO's is a virtual version of the lawlessness of the hooliganism seen in The Purge films.

These kinds of PVPer are the worst of gaming humanity. These fiends thrive on causing distress and discomfort to others. They kill for no reason other than sport. They don't kill for any noble cause. They are cowards that prey on the weak, inexperienced and unprepared. I have never found PVP to be about skill, it's quite the contrary.

So if you can eradicate these kinds of filth from Red then yes maybe people like myself might consider rolling some characters there. I would be very interested to know if there is any player policing of the server and if gankers and griefers are tolerated?

Perhaps I'm wrong about Red. Perhaps I'm jaded after trying to join PVP servers in various MMOs only to be harassed and chased off the server, I'm very skittish. Can you blame me?

However, I can see some value in having PVP servers as a way to keep players in check. People on PVP servers who act out might be subject to street justice which I find very appealing. There are often times on blue I would like to visit some vigilante justice on scumbag players in Mistmoore and other dungeons that monopolize spawns, steal camps or act like dicks training other players.

People are afraid of playing on Red because of a long history of abuse for newbies in the past in various MMOs. Maybe things are different and it's worth at least rolling a character.