Dos the Left Hate Pride? - Page 12

Alarti0001 · #**111** 07-08-2016, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A video of a guy basically explaining about how Noam Chomsky writes in a way he can't read. /golfclap for a dumb guy.

Is this like when a republican complains about a law being more than a page long. Reading is tough!

Also, his words aren't evidence and have been refuted. Try again little boy.

Daywolf · #**112** 07-08-2016, 12:51 AM

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And then he was killed.

Yes he was. And his videos and books are still constantly referenced and quoted. The guy had remarkable insight. Editor of the Drudge Report, helped create the Huffington Post, founder of breitbart.com among other sites. Wrote books, conducted sting operations (i.e. ACORN etc), even exposed the famed Anthony Wiener pics.

@Alarti0001 You live in a fantasy world where you expect an ideology to be turned into some tangible object before you recognize it. Not all ideologies of course, just the ones that expose your words as complete dribble. If Ima little boy then you must still be in your embryonic state praying you dunt get aborted and your brains sucked out into a coffee can. Then again, have a brain scan lately?

maskedmelon · #**113** 07-08-2016, 09:13 AM

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Here is my opinion of bathrooms. I don't give a shit.. well I might be giving a shit in the bathroom... I don't care who is in there.

As far as gender goes... the science says that gender is in the brain. Personal identity is in the brain. Just like how who I am exists in my brain... and if I lost a penis in 'Nam I'd still be male.

I don't care about bathrooms either, but it serves to ilkustrate a valuable point on the meaning and value of liberty as a principle. What do you think about people's rights to decline to participate? Obviously participation in some things must be mandated, but I do not see the necessity of legislation in social issues like these. Why shouldn't Burger King be free to run their bathrooms as they see fit?

As for gender being in the brain, gender has been pretty clearly defined as analogous to sex, which is very narrowly defined. Sure character and identity are in the brain, but so are intelligence and mental illness. People should be free to do as they like so long as their behavior does not harm others, but delusion should not be used as the golden standard for validating abnormal behavior.

maskedmelon · #**114** 07-08-2016, 09:19 AM

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That is my point on bathrooms. If Chic-Fil-A decides it is a traditional establishment and define bathroom usage one way, they should be free to do that. And Dairy Queen should be free to do it differently if they choose to. If we don't like the policies of one or the other, we don't have to go there.

Daywolf what do you think about this? I am curious because it speaks to the level of liberty one embraces. Something that I would see as analogous to this is legislated smoking bans in private establishments. If private establishments choose to allow their patrons to smoke that should be their business. The government should not be dictating what people can do in private establishments so long as nobody is harmed.

Alarti0001 · #**115** 07-08-2016, 10:26 AM

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I don't care about bathrooms either, but it serves to ilkustrate a valuable point on the meaning and value of liberty as a principle. What do you think about people's rights to decline to participate? Obviously participation in some things must be mandated, but I do not see the necessity of legislation in social issues like these. Why shouldn't Burger King be free to run their bathrooms as they see fit?

As for gender being in the brain, gender has been pretty clearly defined as analogous to sex, which is very narrowly defined. Sure character and identity are in the brain, but so are intelligence and mental illness. People should be free to do as they like so long as their behavior does not harm others, but delusion should not be used as the golden standard for validating abnormal behavior.

The real question is why should Burger King be allowed to discriminate? Burger king isn't an individual. An individual can discriminate.
Basically, why should Burger King be allowed to remove the liberty of US citizens.

I think you can pretty easily separate gender and delusion? Mental healthiness is in the brain too after all. You wouldn't say a person is mentally unstable because the shape of a finger... unless the science you understand is circa 500AD

Alarti0001 · #**116** 07-08-2016, 10:28 AM

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@Alarti0001 You live in a fantasy world where you expect an ideology to be turned into some tangible object before you recognize it. Not all ideologies of course, just the ones that expose your words as complete dribble. If Ima little boy then you must still be in your embryonic state praying you dunt get aborted and your brains sucked out into a coffee can. Then again, have a brain scan lately?

Like cool opinion boy. You could totally prove me wrong... if only you could prove one of your statements true. Wait... you can't. :sadface!

Nihilist_santa · #**117** 07-08-2016, 10:34 AM

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The real question is why should Burger King be allowed to discriminate? Burger king isn't an individual. An individual can discriminate.
Basically, why should Burger King be allowed to remove the liberty of US citizens.

I think you can pretty easily separate gender and delusion? Mental healthiness is in the brain too after all. You wouldn't say a person is mentally unstable because the shape of a finger... unless the science you understand is circa 500AD

I like how you didn't answer her question you just rephrased it and put it in her lap. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti0001 · #**118** 07-08-2016, 10:43 AM

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I like how you didn't answer her question you just rephrased it and put it in her lap. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think about it a little(Or in your case alot). You might realize I actually did answer her question.

STILL waiting on your answers to my questions (guessing you can't).

Nihilist_santa · #**119** 07-08-2016, 10:51 AM

Ask the question here friend since you cant adequately link me to the question you asked (go back and read your post it doesn't address me).

So you say you answered her? Where? All you did was say why should they be able to. You didn't give any kind of reasoning or evidence. If you are going on the individual issue then corporations are entitled to the same rights as individuals (personhood) and should be allowed to discriminate. Also no rights or liberties are harmed in being refused a burger. You should do some research as to what your rights actually are.

maskedmelon · #**120** 07-08-2016, 10:53 AM

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The real question is why should Burger King be allowed to discriminate? Burger king isn't an individual. An individual can discriminate.
Basically, why should Burger King be allowed to remove the liberty of US citizens.

Why shouldn't it be? It already does with male-feme bathrooms. It is a private establishment and it does not infringe upon anyone's liberty, because individuals are not required to visit the establishment.

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I think you can pretty easily separate gender and delusion? Mental healthiness is in the brain too after all. You wouldn't say a person is mentally unstable because the shape of a finger... unless the science you understand is circa 500AD

The delusion comes from confusion of sex, whether gender can be separated from it or not. Man/woman are clearly defined terms based on sex. If you believe that you are a man when you do not posses a Y chromosome and do produce eggs, then you are delusional. If you believe that you are a woman when you have a y chromosome and produce sperm cells, then you are delusional. Separating and then confusing the terms gender and sex does not make it any more rational. You can be a masculine woman or a feminine man and choose to live as you perceive one or the other, but to believe you actually are is delusion.