Brexit vote inc

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love when people guilt themselves over history they had nothing to do with, it's such a weak mentality.

Ignoring history, what has caused the present, and what your life would be like under a different circumstance, is the weak mentality.

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enough of the one world bullshit. It's tearing the world apart.

No. Taking the opposite approach is always what has torn the world apart and created more conflict and continues to be a large source of "the problem".

Hilarious to see people calling the EU "Project Fear" when exactly the opposite is the case - calling for isolationism is an invocation of fear. It's all about "what are we getting out of it right now" and continued xenophobia. There are ebbs and flows to every individual market and ultimately they are connected.

Try to ignore and push aside what you wrongly consider to be "trash" and eventually it piles up and your own environment is permanently worse off as a result and you're breathing polluted air that is the result of your own ignorance. I wonder how many people here think the United States should break up into a bunch of different countries.

You're basically a Gnoll if you think this was a good idea.

[Izmael]

3 things killed EU:
- Schengen (deny countries control of their borders)
- the Euro (deny countries control of their currency)
- opening negotiations with Turkey (nobody wants 70 million extra Muslims in Schengen)

Take these 3 things away and maybe there's some future for the EU. But who am I kidding.

[Lune]

In the future, the Euro could have possibly been on track to replace or challenge the dollar as the world's reserve currency, which is an incredibly advantageous status. Now? Never gonna happen.

I'm having trouble thinking of real concrete benefits to UK leaving the EU, besides sending a big middle finger to the global financial elite and multiculturalists. UK already wasn't a part of the Schengen area and already had control of their borders; it was ultimately the British leadership who were responsible for its immigration policy and, driven by business interests, allowed the flood to happen.

[Baler]

I think it is funny how some people were all like EU > NA
Now this happens and all those people shut up.

[Bazia]

love my western world eubros

[Lojik]

Brexit is a perfect example of why I hate politics. It's basically a 50/50 vote, and each side wants to completely dismiss the other sides opinion because [insert some generalisation.] One side claims worldwide panic and chaos will ensue, the other claims liberation from international elite bankers, but the reality is probably going to fall somewhere in between. They'll use singular anecdotal stories to reinforce their opinions, but completely dismiss anything that goes against what they believe. They'll use one type of evidence to reinforce their claims, but ignore that exact type of evidence when it goes against what they believe. For instance, people who were in the remain camp will point to markets dropping as evidence that panic will ensue, but a lot of these people probably shrugged it off when markets dipped when Obama was elected. It's the opposite way around for people in the leave camp.

What we've really learned from history is that, no one really fucking knows what's going to happen. Short term it will probably be a net negative for Britain because change is always hard, but in the long run it could easily turn out better or worse depending on how things go. Call me cynical, but I personally have a hard time believing that politicians will be willing to let the status quo change too much based on a direct vote by the people. Titles change, power shifts hand from one elite set to another, but businesses still need to make money and there are people to be fleeced in Britain and Europe. Trading terms et cetera will take a while to hash out, so likely you'll see terms similar to how things are now in the meantime and probably in the future as well (similar to Norway and Switzerland arrangements with the EU.)

There are opportunities both lost and gained for Britain with this. One thing though is it sends a message to those officials in the EU that there is certainly some accountability for their actions now. Maybe this could make the EU stronger in the future, and perhaps 10 years or more down the road Britain (or just England) could rejoin the EU.

[big_ole_jpn]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Brexit is a perfect example of why I hate politics. It's basically a 50/50 vote, and each side wants to completely dismiss the other sides opinion because [insert some generalisation.] One side claims worldwide panic and chaos will ensue, the other claims liberation from international elite bankers, but the reality is probably going to fall somewhere in between. They'll use singular anecdotal stories to reinforce their opinions, but completely dismiss anything that goes against what they believe. They'll use one type of evidence to reinforce their claims, but ignore that exact type of evidence when it goes against what they believe. For instance, people who were in the remain camp will point to markets dropping as evidence that panic will ensue, but a lot of these people probably shrugged it off when markets dipped when Obama was elected. It's the opposite way around for people in the leave camp.

What we've really learned from history is that, no one really fucking knows what's going to happen. Short term it will probably be a net negative for Britain because change is always hard, but in the long run it could easily turn out better or worse depending on how things go. Call me cynical, but I personally have a hard time believing that politicians will be willing to let the status quo change too much based on a direct vote by the people. Titles change, power shifts hand from one elite set to another, but businesses still need to make money and there are people to be fleeced in Britain and Europe. Trading terms et cetera will take a while to hash out, so likely you'll see terms similar to how things are now in the meantime and probably in the future as well (similar to Norway and Switzerland arrangements with the EU.)

There are opportunities both lost and gained for Britain with this. One thing though is it sends a message to those officials in the EU that there is certainly some accountability for their actions now. Maybe this could make the EU stronger in the future, and perhaps 10 years or more down the road Britain (or just England) could rejoin the EU.

agreed

[Daywolf]

er we do know, just like we knew about Iceland. Iceland crushes the corruption, the left whines it's all over for Icelend, just doom and gloom. Six months later the recovery is obvious, today they are doing well.

Brexit is much of the same, other than they may be better off since they didn't wait until things were so dire... or even worse would be this case due to the insane multiculturalism push by the EU which is about making sure no one ever escapes the corruption by way of voting.

Almost waited too long, another year and the invaders would have taken the vote in the other direction.

[Blitzers]

1 thing is sure the Brits are gonna keep their Tea Kettles.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...d-kettles.html

A study ordered by the European Commission, currently in draft form, has identified up to 30 electrical appliances including lawn mowers, smart phones and kettles that could be covered by the EU's Ecodesign directive outlawing high-wattage devices.

Günther Oettinger, the German EU energy commissioner, said that legislation preventing consumers from buying high-wattage appliances was necessary to fight climate change.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 thing is sure the Brits are gonna keep their Tea Kettles.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...d-kettles.html

A study ordered by the European Commission, currently in draft form, has identified up to 30 electrical appliances including lawn mowers, smart phones and kettles that could be covered by the EU's Ecodesign directive outlawing high-wattage devices.

Günther Oettinger, the German EU energy commissioner, said that legislation preventing consumers from buying high-wattage appliances was necessary to fight climate change.

they tried it here. said they were taking all my light bulbs and replacing them, stealing my bulbs essentially.

I said you can take your own bulbs and swap them, but the lights I provide I provide for a reason because I like and prefer the lighting. its my decision to install these lights.

told them fuck off and it worked. got an exemption.