The left has gone full retard

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is just complete fantasy.

Baby boomers are the most selfish fucks ever to walk the Earth, and they spent the last 50 years dragging the entire country to the right, toward a philosophy of "Fuck you, I got mine". Today, Ike and Nixon would be considered more liberal than Hillary Clinton. LBJ's Great Society was really the last attempt at true liberalism before Reagan sold the country out to the corporate elite, and now we have people like Obama and Clinton who call themselves liberal but are really in the pocket of one moneyed interest or another.

You realize that the boomers ruined the place because of liberalism correct? They are the divorce, drug, "self help"/new age, feel good at any cost, pipe dream idealist that have been the useful idiots dragging sane people along on their "long march through the institutions" as they trade away real security and prosperity for empty slogans and platitudes . They are the modern left aside from their doper babies who are the SJWs and they drive leftist thought by controlling media and education. Bottom line like George Carlin said "Garbage in , Garbage out." the boomers mistakes are the result of embracing liberalism.

[Raev]

Santa your post actually says it better than mine. Let me condense this to one pithy sentence: the leftists got all the PROGRAMS they wanted, just not the RESULTS they wanted, because, as I have been expounding for many, many, many posts, Socialism just doesn't work.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's why this forum is so interesting. Only here can a topic of BLM hijacking a vigil for the worst mass shooting in 100yrs, blame it on whity, and then here descend into economics as some explanation for a muslim terrorist on a shooting spree killing 49 and wounding some 50 homosexuals or such. So now we argue 50 shades of socialism.

Have you ever once heard a leftist acknowledge the mistakes of the left? All I ever see are apologist like Allaharti who try to redefine the left and distance themselves from every leftist fuck up. Marx would have cheered on the gunman I think. Homosexual night club in a tourist city sounds pretty fucking bourgeois decadent to me.

[Pokesan]

Was Reagen a RHINO?

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was Reagen a RHINO?

Reagan was an actor and GE spokesman who played the part of a Republican President for 8 years. Why do you ask?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is complete spin. We spend far more on social programs than we did during the Great Society. How on earth is that moving to the right? I mean, I am with you that those programs have failed utterly, but that doesn't mean we didn't try.

It's incredibly reductive to take a single trend (increased spending on social programs) and say that alone signifies dominance of the left. Meanwhile an entire political party no longer believes in the efficacy of government (this was NOT a Republican value before 1960), union membership is at an all time low, minimum wage increases are taboo, tax is taboo, the financial system was deregulated, etc etc.

And it's worth mentioning that a huge portion of this "we spend far more on social programs now" trend is because the cost of healthcare has absolutely ballooned over the last 50 years, with an entire industry dedicated to milking Medicare and taking a cut of every healthcare transaction.

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What you're saying is basically like watching a car drive uphill and then claiming it's a shitty, slow car that gets bad mileage-- no, it's just being raped by that incline. You're ignoring the complexity of the system.

Which reminds me just how dogshit that graph you posted is, as it includes healthcare and lumps it in as "Welfare" to make a point.

[Lune]

I'm not even really arguing for liberalism here.

So much of why our shit doesn't work isn't because people started voting Democrat and they got their way, it's because as a whole, our culture has degraded significantly in the last 50 years. More selfishness, greed, corruption, isolation, individualism, pussification, multiculturalism, political correctness, etc. Our culture is hardly even capable of supporting a healthy democracy at this point. Look at this fucking election. We have the government we deserve.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not even really arguing for liberalism here.

So much of why our shit doesn't work isn't because people started voting Democrat and they got their way, it's because as a whole, our culture has degraded significantly in the last 50 years. More selfishness, greed, corruption, isolation, individualism, pussification, multiculturalism, political correctness, etc. Our culture is hardly even capable of supporting a healthy democracy at this point. Look at this fucking election. We have the government we deserve.

Rejection of uniforms and suits had a lot to with the degradation since the 1950's.

The 60's movement permanently damaged society where it became cool to be a fuckwad in a t-shirt with no plans.

Now the t-shirt essence is still in full effect, plebs became even more plebian than they already were. "Suits are for upper management and execs" lol. It wasn't just about "dressing like the big man". Far from it. It was a uniform.

Many published studies have been done on the effects of uniforms. "Clothes make the man" (a progressive opinion) rings more true than accusations that suits were about "dressing like the big man" (a degenerate observation).

Degenerate opinion became popular opinion in the aftermath of the 60's.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rejection of uniforms and suits had a lot to with the degradation since the 1950's.

The 60's movement permanently damaged society where it became cool to be a fuckwad in a t-shirt with no plans.

Now the t-shirt essence is still in full effect, plebs became even more plebian than they already were. "Suits are for upper management and execs" lol. It wasn't just about "dressing like the big man". Far from it. It was a uniform.

Many published studies have been done on the effects of uniforms. "Clothes make the man" (a progressive opinion) rings more true than accusations that suits were about "dressing like the big man" (a degenerate observation).

Degenerate opinion became popular opinion in the aftermath of the 60's.

^ Great post. This describes perfectly movements like feminism.

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[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not even really arguing for liberalism here.

So much of why our shit doesn't work isn't because people started voting Democrat and they got their way, it's because as a whole, our culture has degraded significantly in the last 50 years. More selfishness, greed, corruption, isolation, individualism, pussification, multiculturalism, political correctness, etc. Our culture is hardly even capable of supporting a healthy democracy at this point. Look at this fucking election. We have the government we deserve.

Starting to understand you a bit more Lune however I still cant for the life of me understand why you agree economically with the left but disagree with them on social issues unless you are a National Socialist.