Nag's Lair, Royals Camp

[Taysh]

Originally Posted by Izzni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is because you are a bad person. You've now twice involved a GM in some bull crap. In all of my time playing on p1999 I've never had an issue that required a GM to resolve (I believe a raid I was apart of several years ago had a GM show up, but the raid scene is a disaster).

If you've had a GM involved once with a dispute you've had it might be because the other player was an ass, if you've had a GM involved more than once it is you that is an ass, especially within a week or two timeframe.

So yes, you sir are an ass.

#1 Show up for one mob, for a bracer for a noob druid.
#2 Asked the group which camp they were in, they replied "Champion."
#3 Said they needed Targin, gave them Targin
#4 Pulled King room trash mobs to them with 5-10% into their room for easy killing, got slandered and cursed off
#5 No physical presence on the named Spawn point, while mobs began repopping
#6 Group had to break up for some reason as it was.
#7 Royals = 3 camps is a player based creation, just like how they say Hands is Warlord. WRONG. A physical body must be in the camp.
#8 I offered to pull them also, bugs and beetles, and whatever else was around and non camped.
#9 I rightfully took the spot, and only wanted 1 mob, and when it popped, they came in and Kill stole it.

Twisted Logic here. You people fucking sicken me, claim things about how I am an asshole and am entitled, yet was there to help a new druid get some gear.

The whole T-Staff thing, totally different story, plus I served my penalty for taking to long to pass the staff over, and during mid pass got d/c off the game.

I have helped well over 500 people in this game with items, exp, money, power leveling, etc. And I am the asshole yeah? Most of you are full of shit, self serving assholes who point the finger at someone who had a bad day, for the rest of their existence, have no forgiveness in your hearts, are sour people to the core, and truthfully, are self serving just as much as everyone said I was.

You cast your judgment on me, fine, do what you want, say what you want. In this situation I was correct. Fucking sick of you internet morons with no lives. Farewell.

[Crawdad]

Originally Posted by Taysh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have helped well over 500 people in this game with items, exp, money, power leveling, etc. And I am the asshole yeah? Most of you are full of shit, self serving assholes who point the finger at someone who had a bad day, for the rest of their existence, have no forgiveness in your hearts, are sour people to the core, and truthfully, are self serving just as much as everyone said I was.

You cast your judgment on me, fine, do what you want, say what you want. In this situation I was correct. Fucking sick of you internet morons with no lives. Farewell.

Yes, you're coming off as an asshole. Royals is 1 camp, has been since classic. If they don't want your help, you aren't 'helping.' You should've just offered to buy it if it dropped and gone somewhere else. Way to play the victim card yet again when you're the douche.

[Taysh]

Originally Posted by Crawdad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you're coming off as an asshole. Royals is 1 camp, has been since classic. If they don't want your help, you aren't 'helping.' You should've just offered to buy it if it dropped and gone somewhere else. Way to play the victim card yet again when you're the douche.

Sorry, Royals is player made. It's obviously 3 separate rooms, which requires you to leave one room to get to the other.

[Crawdad]

Originally Posted by Taysh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, Royals is player made. It's obviously 3 separate rooms, which requires you to leave one room to get to the other.

For someone who hates forums you sure do lawyer hard.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Taysh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, Royals is player made. It's obviously 3 separate rooms, which requires you to leave one room to get to the other.

By definition, none of the three are actually rooms.

[Neno]

Originally Posted by Taysh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

#7 Royals = 3 camps is a player based creation, just like how they say Hands is Warlord. WRONG. A physical body must be in the camp.

Project 1999 Staff will not be defining what constitutes a camp. Instead, Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will arbitrate spawn disputes on a per-case-basis. We greatly encourage players to find their own resolution to spawn disputes, as the solution provided by the staff will at best be a win-lose situation, and possbily a lose-lose situation. No two decisions, even at the same 'camp', are guaranteed to be the same, as we will take into account multiple factors in making a determination on a 'camp'.

That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders cleared. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. It should also be noted that if you camp out or leave the zone, you have forfeited a camp. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up.

KPC is interesting because it is made up of 3 "rooms" that are very near to each other. The rooms are more akin to cliffs/ledges that all sit inside a larger volcanic chamber. However, the areas do not connect directly to each other and instead all 3 areas connect to the same hallway. So it comes down to the definition of what is "very near to the spawn". Seb Crypt works in a similar way to KPC. 4 Rooms connecting to a larger room. In the past it was very possible for a single person to make their way down to the crypt and contest the herio spawn even with another group in the area.

If both "camps" work the same way then the group that was in champ would have had to move into the king room in order to claim king after the king spawn was contested. If you can no longer contest herio while a group is in the crypt then you probably wouldn't be able to contest king with a group sitting in champ.

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Ledge room in Droga is one camp with 3 seperate spawn points and a ledge and is and has always been a single camp. How is this any different. KPC/Royals has ALWAYS been a single camp since the beginning of EQ time. I am sorry a group had it capmed and you wanted to fine print your way through it and I am sorry that the group didnt want your help with EXP even if there were other camps open. Maybe with the lawyerquesting and rules on this server you MAY have a complaint on a technicallity but trying to shake up the way the community has done things for almost 2 decades because you didnt want to wait for your shitty item speaks for itself. You arent doing yourself any favors here trying to convince everyone you arent being a entitled whiner. I am curious in this 7 or 8 pages have you many people that agree with you? Maybe that should make you realize something