TMO

[Cecily]

how / why did they fail ?

They merged in a whole guild of people who hated / were hated by Empire. Strangely enough, Empire didn't take that well and TMO upgraded themselves from amusing novelty to full on KoS with that merger. Wasn't around after that happened to see exactly how it played out, but we all know how the story ends.

[Swish]

Don't forget Tiggles stirring shit then quietly quitting [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They merged in a whole guild of people who hated / were hated by Empire. Strangely enough, Empire didn't take that well and TMO upgraded themselves from amusing novelty to full on KoS with that merger.

Ahh, I forgot that part. I think they would have found a reason to grief TMO anyway, though. Has there ever been a number two guild that hasn't been locked down by the top guild?

[Cecily]

People keep bringing that up like it makes any difference. TMO failed because Quickfingers was a troll... right.

[Videri]

I think it didn't help. It gave people more of a reason to kill them and shake their severed heads in glory to prove Tiggles wrong. They might have done so anyway, but with more shame and less righteous zeal.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it didn't help. It gave people more of a reason to kill them and shake their severed heads in glory to prove Tiggles wrong. They might have done so anyway, but with more shame and less righteous zeal.

It's true that trash talk works a lot better on blue to demoralize your opponent than red. EQ players are generally somewhat immune to shit talk after their first year or so playing on a PvP server.

But on blue I think people forget that Tiggles bragging on the forums worked in his favor more often than against him.

[stonez138]

If his goal was becoming one of the most loathsome and despised players on the server then I agree with you it worked in his favor.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They merged in a whole guild of people who hated / were hated by Empire. Strangely enough, Empire didn't take that well and TMO upgraded themselves from amusing novelty to full on KoS with that merger. Wasn't around after that happened to see exactly how it played out, but we all know how the story ends.

you're missing a lot, like before that merger tiggles & pals joined red and joined holocaust, were handed out 100's of thousands of plat in droppables to get them started on the server and then they immediately turned and started shit talking holo/emp before a single one of their players who wasn't already on red months before the switch hit level 60.

you like to post about tmo red a lot but i never saw you around. #1 attendance player in tmo red here and i don't even know who ur toon was if you even played.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If his goal was becoming one of the most loathsome and despised players on the server then I agree with you it worked in his favor.

They were the longest lasting monopoly guild by far -- so you'll forgive me for taking this "it hurts the guild" thesis with a grain of salt. Especially since the founders of this RnF gag BS have a habit of breaking up every couple of months.

If your guild is sucking it up in VP -- people might not like tiggles pointing it out and bragging...but they also take the cue and assume the guild is dead and no one can beat TMO.

If propaganda didn't work every government and corporation in the world wouldn't utilize it.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Words.

you like to post about tmo red a lot but i never saw you around. #1 attendance player in tmo red here and i don't even know who ur toon was if you even played.

Of course I like to post about my guild. Now I never was in TMO red because I didn't want to play with GG scum, but you're missing my point. You, mister high raid attendance, and the rest of your guild joining TMO is what killed them. Despite your obviously important contributions.