Nullify Magic vs Annul Magic

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it still usually removes the top - the issue is just as the previous poster pointed out, the client side and server side buff order is not always 'accurately' displayed to you in the order your buffs actually are

Prior to the patch that changed buffs, it was reasonably difficult as a bard to get the right AE removed with dispell when the top buff always got removed. Bards had the extra difficulty of making sure that songs being twisted did not ever drop when dispelling, so songs did not switch buff slot and screw up the rest of your group.

Now, it's pretty hard as a bard to make sure your songs don't drop and end up in the wrong buff slot since you don't know what buff is going to get removed when use dispell and you have to dispell multiple times in a row to get the AE removed. It always felt like a total gamble to me after the "buff" patch.

[Izmael]

Originally Posted by Hackattack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*There are still some issues that cause dispells to skip buffs though. Mostly due to poor buff management. I've found that the biggest culprit is letting buffs jump slots during rebuffing. This causes them to visually appear in the UI in one slot but actually be in a different slot when dispels start flyin in, which makes dispel appear to jump slots. If you always click off buffs before reapplying it clears up a ton of the dispel issues people complain about.

This sounds like a bug to me ?

[Luminious]

Originally Posted by Hackattack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Buffs] visually appear in the UI in one slot but actually be in a different slot [server side], which makes dispel appear to jump slots. If you always click off buffs before reapplying it clears up a ton of the dispel issues...

I just tested this out and confirmed this to be correct.

Starting buff order in UI (client side) and server side:
Slot 1 - See Invis
Slot 2 - DS
Slot 3 - Arch Shielding

Clicked See Invis buff to drop; slot in UI now open, recast Arch Shielding moved in UI from Slot 3 to Slot 1.
Buff order in UI is:
Slot 1 - Arch Shielding
Slot 2 - DS
Slot 3 - See Inviz

Buff order on server side is still original order:
Slot 1 - See Invis
Slot 2 - DS
Slot 3 - Arch Shielding

Casting Nullify Magic drops DS and See Inviz and not Arch Shielding. The order Nullify worked on was exactly what is on server side.