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Old 05-25-2016, 05:13 PM
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The real protesters packed up and went home before the rioters showed up, so of course the media is having a great time misrepresenting them as violent.

https://progressnownm.org/2016/05/25...w-on-the-news/

Basically, there were two protests, but only the one that gives the impression that the protesters are needlessly aggressive, radical, and probably not the type you want to associate with has really made the news.

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Old 05-25-2016, 05:45 PM
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Best vid on it, of what few there are. Ain't no "protesters" though, just fascists rioting in the streets. People want to riot and shut down free speech? That's fascism. And they point fingers at others calling them fascists, while they themselves are the only ones practicing fascism.

I don't care what politician it is they do this to, Bernie, Hillary, Donald, even Red Ted, fascism is fascism. Waving foreign flags, burning the US flag, throwing bottles, rocks, fire bombs, smashing cars, spraying pepper spray, assaulting a peaceful political rally to disrupt it, is not protesting, it's fascist rioting.
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:52 PM
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I'm going to go with how the London Riots were reported and say this is a teaparty down with the 1% event.
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:00 PM
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I'm going to go with how the London Riots were reported and say this is a teaparty down with the 1% event.
the London riots are and will not be reported on.

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Old 05-25-2016, 06:02 PM
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If you have read any Giovanni Gentile then you would begin to understand that fascism is not an "idea". Fascism is an actualism. It can come in any form. Its a swift and singleminded action for the good of a collective. It rose during the 20s and 30s because the cultures where it was embraced were threatened by international communism(jewry).

Some have called fascism an extreme form of propertarianism. Not sure if I agree with that but I guess its used to distinguish fascism from other forms of "collectivism". I think the difference in the fascist form of collectivism as opposed to the communist variety is that fascism recognizes the role of the individual in the overall health of the society and its institutions where as communism stamps out individuality to erase "class" distinctions. Fascism recognizes class distinctions. Take the role of women for example. USSR women = cogs in a machine/NSDAP women = vital aspect of the culture and recognized for that role.

Your description of Fascism is really just an oligarchy. You also say that fascism is an extreme form of capitalism but if you have ever actually studied the writings of actual fascist then you would see that they hold capitalism in contempt as well. Thats why they feel the need for a strong centralized authority to protect the citizens from capitalism(among other things) while maintaining property rights hence the earlier nod to propertarianism. The Nazis saw how the ((((money interest)))) were overwhelmingly led by one faction of society *cough*47% of the 1% these people comprise*cough* and how that system they controlled and used to enslave other nations. They outlawed usury which is how capitalism is corrupted. It bothers me when people try to say that Fascism is extreme capitalism.
A more sober view than the post you quoted.

Facist and communist regimes are similar in their methods of control. In practical reality there isn't a lot of difference between the two (Hitler once said Stalinism was just "red facism"). But the theory behind the two are completely different. One is about achieving the closest thing to real equality. The other is about state strength, empowering the country at the expense of others.

Facism is closely related to racism. I had a libertarian professor once said the main difference between facism and communism was that facism also had racism. Ultimately I don't agree with him, but in practical reality there is something to it.

Ultimately this kind of stuff usually devolves into some BS semantic argument though.

Edit: The reason american liberals and conservatives always fuck up there understanding of facism -- is because they don't understand that there isn't a big "goverment vs free market" dichomity in the German intellectual tradition. They never really bought into that "the economy" (which exists independent of society) in mass as much as they have here. To Hitler, the economy wasn't a big theater of ideological warfare. Most Germans agree some government and some market is good.
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:08 PM
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If I post something other from Faux news or Huffington Puffington Post here they have meltdowns and won't even look at the thread or linked content. My common sources show Trump supporters being hit with rocks (that later, but...), women screamed at while holding infant babies by guys standing behind Mexican flags, and water bottles being thrown at people in wheelchairs as pig cops stand by and do nothing. Even screaming at old ladies. Most of that happening in the day when you claim they were different people altogether. Those different people were purposely allow to be close enough to the entrance of the rally to engage peaceable citizens on their way to practice their first amendment right, to get a taste of blood for the desired outcome to start that night.
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:14 PM
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Oh, thx much Sorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I post something other from Faux news or Huffington Puffington Post here they have meltdowns and won't even look at the thread or linked content. My common sources show Trump supporters being hit with rocks (that later, but...), women screamed at while holding infant babies by guys standing behind Mexican flags, and water bottles being thrown at people in wheelchairs as pig cops stand by and do nothing. Even screaming at old ladies. Most of that happening in the day when you claim they were different people altogether. Those different people were purposely allow to be close enough to the entrance of the rally to engage peaceable citizens on their way to practice their first amendment right, to get a taste of blood for the desired outcome to start that night.
I'm not saying I know those guys were paid agitators. But I'm saying that if I wanted to get Trump elected as a wealthy interest, that's how I would do it. Just get a bunch of thuggish super nationalists Mexicans on T.V. and frame all left supporters as much.
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The real protesters packed up and went home before the rioters showed up, so of course the media is having a great time misrepresenting them as violent.

https://progressnownm.org/2016/05/25...w-on-the-news/

Basically, there were two protests, but only the one that gives the impression that the protesters are needlessly aggressive, radical, and probably not the type you want to associate with has really made the news.

(I will now go back to ignoring all of you.)
I guess the news was handing out Mexican flags also? This is avoiding the issue and trying to recast this as who is the aggressor. I dont know about you but a bunch of foreign freeloaders who are up in arms waving foreign flags because they support a lefty (most of them do) who promises free shit is reason enough to vote for the other guy.
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I'm not saying I know those guys were paid agitators. But I'm saying that if I wanted to get Trump elected as a wealthy interest, that's how I would do it. Just get a bunch of thuggish super nationalists Mexicans on T.V. and frame all left supporters as much.
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