There's no case for new blue server (ie recycle)

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've thought about this too. But, apart from some neat clickies and a handful of BIS gear, VP really wasn't game-breaking. Even if you had every item from VP, you weren't substantially better (gear-wise) than someone in a casual guild.

That does not hold true in Velious, as there is a stark difference b/w NTOV/Doze/Top-end Kael items and the items someone in a casual guild can achieve.

Secondly, Velious does not have a ton to do if you aren't in a raiding guild. It is also not as immersive a world as classic, or even kunark.

I concur, but other expansions fix this?

A lot of complaints stem from those guilds formerly in class R, that never actually participated in actual end game raiding. Now when actually confronted head on with that part of the raid scene, they don't like it and complain quite vocally to everyone that will listen.

Literally the only way to separate the casuals that are perpetually behind is continuously add expansions, which isn't going to happen.