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[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again, you take your personal experience or belifes and assume everyone in america would agree that you're the smartest man in the room.

More informed than you, that's for sure. I already called you out as a extremest gay activist back when you joined here. so I've never really been surprised by your biased narrow baseless talking points since then. Also, Danth made an excellent and well informed post, probably better than any attempt by you, ever. Danth just used less teeth, but not a bad thing.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where's the recognition of Agnostics or Atheism?

isn't that the default if no religion is established?

its like talking to a wall

[iruinedyourday]

oh shit my bad!

I didnt know daywolf called me out as an extremist gay activist.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More informed than you, that's for sure. I already called you out as a extremest gay activist back when you joined here. so I've never really been surprised by your biased narrow baseless talking points since then. Also, Danth made an excellent and well informed post, probably better than any attempt by you, ever. Danth just used less teeth, but not a bad thing.

just how extreme a dude are you, IRYD? you rockin ollies on that flame decaled longboard bruh?

DO YOU POUND THE DOUBLE DEW?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Goliathan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abortion as contraception is horrid. I'm not a fan of abortion in general as adoption saved my life. Medical reasons. Rape. Incest yes. Responsibility for our actions is important. So is reproduction. Guard against it if you can't handle it. It's a powerful thing.

If you have an early-term fetus you don't want and can't care for, you have a responsibility to terminate it.

Passing it off to society or someone else is the very meaning of irresponsibility. And speaking of responsibility, are you okay with the cost being passed onto society and the government? Adoption doesn't always pan out, mothers careless or religious enough to fail at contraception often can't afford to raise a child. That means $$$$ from your pockets. How Democrat of you. Not to mention overpopulation, and all the collateral costs that come with multi-generational poverty.

[Goliathan]

Also heeeey! I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I just want people to be happy and not try to make others unhappy when it hurts no one got them to be happy.

[Goliathan]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have an early-term fetus you don't want and can't care for, you have a responsibility to terminate it.

Passing it off to society or someone else is the very meaning of irresponsibility. And speaking of responsibility, are you okay with the cost being passed onto society and the government? Adoption doesn't always pan out, mothers stupid or religious enough to fail at contraception often can't afford to raise a child. That means $$$$ from your pockets. How Democrat of you. Not to mention overpopulation, and all the collateral costs that come with multi-generational poverty.

There are waiting lists years long for the adoption of babies. The real problems lie with children too old to be wanted. 8+. Those children need the most help and love of all. My wife and I plan to adopt an older child when we're a bit more stable. No. Adoption doesn't always pan out. But it's better than most other options. If a woman chooses to terminate because of the reasons you listed it's her choice. It should always. Be her choice. However one would hope a lesson would be learned by going through the trauma of abortion.

The trauma will always lie on her more than anyone else.

Also yes. We're sorely overpopulated. You can again thank to an extent the book with a cross on it and the people who wield it like a spear and dehumanize women who want to terminate. Human life is sacred to a lot of people. Many countries have outlawed abortion. Our population will not be slowed by legalized and destigmatized abortion. Some cataclysmic event is the only thing that will reign us in.

Oh and white families don't adopt black or brown babies. Which is dumb. But they get judged pretty harshly if they do. I've seen it.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have an early-term fetus you don't want and can't care for, you have a responsibility to terminate it.

Passing it off to society or someone else is the very meaning of irresponsibility. And speaking of responsibility, are you okay with the cost being passed onto society and the government? Adoption doesn't always pan out, mothers careless or religious enough to fail at contraception often can't afford to raise a child. That means $$$$ from your pockets. How Democrat of you. Not to mention overpopulation, and all the collateral costs that come with multi-generational poverty.

hes not talking about that tho, hes talking about the strawman, low IQ folks like Daywolf use to argue that IF abortion = legal:Kids get abortions /not condoms.

aka fucking completely stupid fear.

its like being afraid of say idk... investing in solar energy, becuse obviously the next thing well do is build a planet sucking sun gun that destroys the solar system

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I mean its an obviously slippery slope guys... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hes not talking about that tho, hes talking about the strawman, low IQ folks like Daywolf use to argue that IF abortion = legal:Kids get abortions /not condoms.

aka fucking completely stupid fear.

its like being afraid of say idk... investing in solar energy, becuse obviously the next thing well do is build a planet sucking sun gun that destroys the solar system

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I mean its an obviously slippery slope guys... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you left out the incoherent tirade about some unimportant historical footnote but otherwise that's spot on Daywolf posting

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Goliathan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This whole post makes me sad. I don't have the energy to respond more to it. Day. We're a huge drain. There's too many of us as it is. We don't need to reproduce naturally. We're too busy taking care of the children that the folks who naturally reproduce don't want or care about. I'm adopted. Trust me I know about this.

It's not my intent to make you sad, it's my intent to speak of the actual issues and maybe somewhere someone will get off their duffs and honesty research issues beyond the mainstream media lies, as always.

You miss the cycle. Where do most orphans come from? This has been one of my issues, not that I'm adopted, but that volunteer work I spoke of in mexico is at an orphanage. An orphanage of children coming from extreme cases, badly abused etc.

Here in the US, orphans come mostly from the broken family, the family which is under attack. This is a cycle, and bringing in gay couples to the problem only makes the problems of the cycle even more elusive. I think even the Catholics (which I am not) got fed up with it, shut down orphan programs due to the insurgence of nontraditional family units into the problem. So rather than being forced by people to do what they can't do, they only managed to shut down these services and further degrade the problem.

And that whole population control shtick is total and absolute BS too, promoted by the elitists that simply want to exterminate humanity down to a small manageable number of something around 200mil (they say this openly now). Like Milo said, they are just using you.

Originally Posted by Goliathan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for prison. Yes. People like me are jailed in Russia and many countries. Someone else's suffering under corruption and hatred does not diminish what we deal with here. It just if anything should make it more apparent that the problem can get much much worse.

"yes" wat? I'm not in agreement with you, clearly was not my point which you seem to try to agree with with a "yes". I'm not speaking of Russia, I'm speaking of issues here in the US. Where are all the people here that are gay being thrown into prison just for being gay??

If we are going to start throwing out wild tangents, Yes, Islam is not a religion of peace, and gay people are murdered for simply being gay, and the liberals simply don't care because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Being used.

Originally Posted by Goliathan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh also we'd love to give your straight made unwanted children better lives. Love and steady healthy family structure. But people would like to rather let them rot and see us unable to adopt.

already answered. Just more BS they tricked you with so you'll be a prosperous government tool for them.

Originally Posted by Goliathan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're all major issues. They're all important. All part of the same problem. Religious overreach and governmental overreach.

More propaganda. Government is only overreaching and not simply trying to destroy? And then people of faith are the real enemy, eh? Because god forbid people of faith not move aside for the minority to rule over their lives. Only in the US where a 1% minority can contribute to the destruction of the things that have propelled civilization forward. But fortunately, it's not all of them, but then even Milo is called a homophobe (fear of humanity hah) because he recognizes the brainwashing and want's nothing of it.

Your real issue isn't that you are gay, it's that you are a liberal.