George Washington "a Prophet"

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Goliathan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What other war on family is there. Do you mean keeping people in poverty? Because when people say war on the American family. They absolutely usually mean because of people who don't fit the one man one woman definition.

It's not hijacking. It's directly related. As the families most under attack are families like mine. So..yeah. I don't see any group trying to dissolve the family unit of middle class Christian conservatives.

However. I do see them voting for and passing horrificly discriminatory legislation.

I'm fully willing to observe other points. I'd prefer if this kind of stuff didn't happen at all. Sadly I've never heard an argument against my kind of family that didn't boil down to the bible.

I don't want you to look at me like I'm some crazy hard left nut bag. I've just experienced enough to know what I should worry about and fear I guess.

See and progressing the issue, can't drop it (is that you IRYD?). Huge chip on the shoulder. A redefinition of what a family is (it's not two people married), and then totally blow over the criminal actions of the government as it destroys actual families as has been the issue long before the first gay marriage in the US.

Defining Family: a basic social unit consisting of parents and their children, considered as a group, whether dwelling together or not:
the traditional family.

When two people that are of the same gender can naturally produce offspring by way of their genetics, get back to me on the issue. m'kay?
Because otherwise it's not a traditional family and is not a family issue. However your attempt to redefine the dictionary is just another part of the problem among the progressives, and in this issue that you are forcing, as Milo Yiannopoulos said, they are just using you.

Meanwhile there are actual people suffering, widespread, even being incarcerated into the prison industry. Yes, not an issue for you, and why should it be? Doubt you even bothered with those two vids. But to speak of it gives you now ample opportunity to derail and turn it into some "gay marriage" debate, which is not related to the family, directly. Again, while actual people suffer, put into the prison industry, children growing up without fathers and becoming statistically most likely to also enter the prison industry as was said in that second vid.

[iruinedyourday]

lol @ gaywolf pretending he care about people being imprisoned wrongly.

Unless hes probably talking about those fucking retards in Oregon lmao

[Pokesan]

straight people don't automatically reproduce, daywolf. your argument is a bird.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's about not establishing a state religion you boner. recognition is fine.

Where's the recognition of Agnostics or Atheism?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Defining Family: a basic social unit consisting of parents and their children, considered as a group, whether dwelling together or not:
the traditional family.

fam·i·ly
ˈfam(ə)lē/Submit
noun
1.
a group consisting of parents and children living together in a household.


Dont say shit about birthing children you closeted homo daywolf. Once again, you take your personal experience or belifes and assume everyone in america would agree that you're the smartest man in the room.

[Goliathan]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

De facto, as opposed to media talking points? Have a few examples of the harm being done to the family fabric of this country in recent decades:

a) Decades of wage stagnation has required an increase in family working hours to make ends meet, making families with two working parents the norm and leaving parents with less time to devote to their children.

b) An explosion of drug use, particularly meth, is having a similar ruinous effect across low-income white families as crack cocaine did during the 1980's.

c) Single parent families grow ever more common. Something on the order of 70 to 80 per cent of black children are raised in single-parent homes nowadays, and the number of such children among whites is entirely too high, as well.

d) An erosion of opportunity and increase in debt load among lower- and middle-class youth forces young adults to put off moving out or even starting families until later in life. In addition to the complications involved with older first-time mothers, it likely contributes to the lack of replacement-rate births.

e) Public education is in a pathetic state in this country

But by all means let's continue ignoring the elephant(s) in the room while arguing over a minor issue that affects, by definition, at most a couple per cent of the population.


Danth

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See and progressing the issue, can't drop it (is that you IRYD?). Huge chip on the shoulder. A redefinition of what a family is (it's not two people married), and then totally blow over the criminal actions of the government as it destroys actual families as has been the issue long before the first gay marriage in the US.

Defining Family: a basic social unit consisting of parents and their children, considered as a group, whether dwelling together or not:
the traditional family.

When two people that are of the same gender can naturally produce offspring by way of their genetics, get back to me on the issue. m'kay?
Because otherwise it's not a traditional family and is not a family issue. However your attempt to redefine the dictionary is just another part of the problem among the progressives, and in this issue that you are forcing, as Milo Yiannopoulos said, they are just using you.

Meanwhile there are actual people suffering, widespread, even being incarcerated into the prison industry. Yes, not an issue for you, and why should it be? Doubt you even bothered with those two vids. But to speak of it gives you now ample opportunity to derail and turn it into some "gay marriage" debate, which is not related to the family, directly. Again, while actual people suffer, put into the prison industry, children growing up without fathers and becoming statistically most likely to also enter the prison industry as was said in that second vid.

This whole post makes me sad. I don't have the energy to respond more to it. Day. We're a huge drain. There's too many of us as it is. We don't need to reproduce naturally. We're too busy taking care of the children that the folks who naturally reproduce don't want or care about. I'm adopted. Trust me I know about this.

As for prison. Yes. People like me are jailed in Russia and many countries. Someone else's suffering under corruption and hatred does not diminish what we deal with here. It just if anything should make it more apparent that the problem can get much much worse.

Oh also we'd love to give your straight made unwanted children better lives. Love and steady healthy family structure. But people would like to rather let them rot and see us unable to adopt.

They're all major issues. They're all important. All part of the same problem. Religious overreach and governmental overreach.

[iruinedyourday]

I am 100% confident daywofl is the type of person that thinks gays shouldn't adopt but abortion should be illegal.

[Goliathan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am 100% confident daywofl is the type of person that thinks gays shouldn't adopt but abortion should be illegal.

Abortion as contraception is horrid. I'm not a fan of abortion in general as adoption saved my life. Medical reasons. Rape. Incest yes. Responsibility for our actions is important. So is reproduction. Guard against it if you can't handle it. It's a powerful thing.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Goliathan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abortion as contraception is horrid. I'm not a fan of abortion in general as adoption saved my life. Medical reasons. Rape. Incest yes. Responsibility for our actions is important. So is reproduction. Guard against it if you can't handle it. It's a powerful thing.

I dont think anyone worth reproducing would think abortion is a contraceptive.

[Goliathan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont think anyone worth reproducing would think abortion is a contraceptive.

This is very true I'd wager.