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Old 02-15-2011, 12:34 PM
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hi nilborg if that is your real name!

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--2 minute respawns on both
--yes, wurms see invis
--no, racnars do not see invis
--pathing on hoshkar and silverwing is correct

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Old 02-15-2011, 12:59 PM
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Japanese site says Wurms have 90 sec re-pop:

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 Zone InするとVPです(笑) Con/WhiteとRedだけですが、Track使っても意味無いので気にしないように。
 Veeshan`s Peakにいる雑魚Mobとしては、
 ・Racnar
 ・Guardian Wurm
 ・Lava Drake

 の三種がいます。どれも固定/定位置をRoamingというもので、どれも90sec Repopです。Factionはなにも持っておらず、デフォルトでKoSです。VPに来るレベルと人数ならはっきり いって(例え強いといっても)雑魚ですが、90sec repopで数いるのでKillしていたら到底Raidになりません。でもExp稼ぎには使えるかもしれま せん(笑)
I can read enough Japanese to confirm that the bolded parts speak for themselves.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:00 PM
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Japanese site says Wurms have 90 sec re-pop:



I can read enough Japanese to confirm that the bolded parts speak for themselves.
Yep. I got that from it as well. I was curious if the rest of the non-english text contained relevant information.

Other sites refer to a 2 minute spawn time.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:10 PM
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Yep. I got that from it as well. I was curious if the rest of the non-english text contained relevant information.

Other sites refer to a 2 minute spawn time.
Hard to distinguish what's relevant in this context, as I personally never got close to the zone on live, but I'll have a look at the named-mob section to see what I can see.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:11 PM
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lava drake
posts here indicate this drake is green. http://web.archive.org/web/200105220...how&BID=234260

this guide mentions a blue drake: http://web.archive.org/web/200010011...shanspeak.html
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also guarded by a blue drake



what color should they be?
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:42 PM
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I can confirm that the portals took you to the zones mentioned. I definitely zoned into freeport once behind druusk. I have no proof though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:21 PM
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The only zone out was to Sky. Thought it was in Phara Dar's room, but I can't remember for sure. I'm not 100% sure, but I could swear it ported you to Eye of Veeshan. The location was near a Pad, with a Pile of gold and treasure chests around it, if I recall correctly.

Rapters didn't see invs as you can see by the Invs on the names of us old folk running like mad men past them. SS of said event

Some Wurms didn't see invs all the time. I remember if you killed a see invs one, the chance of a non see invs one spawned.

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Racnar and Lava Drake's were 2 min respawns.

Not sure about the color of the guards,we typically used res pulling in VP. So I can't recall killing them.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:03 PM
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基本的には、RacnarとGuardian WurmにはInvisiが効きます。Lava Drakeには効きません。希にGuardian WurmがSee Invisible持ってる時がありますので、移動時にはちゃんと確認した方が良いです。確認にはBard のBind Sightが非常に有用です。
Generally, invis works on Racnar and Guardian Wurm, but not on Lava Drake. [Some ?] Guardian Wurms have See Invis, it's a good idea to confirm specifically [which ones ?]. Bards' Bind sight is extremely useful in doing this.

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Named Dragonは、Silverwing、Hoshkar、Druushk、Nexxona、Xygoz、P hara-Darといますが、どれもthe Ring of Scaleに所属しており、RoS FactionがRtAで無い限りは大丈夫です。Namedは全てSee Invisibleを持っています。Hoshkar、SilverwingはRoamerなので、その位置 を把握するためにもBardのBind Sightは有用です。Bard最高!(たまには)
The named dragons are Silverwing, Hoshkar, Druushk, Nexxona, Xygox, and Phara-dar. They are all on the Ring of Scale faction. [I'm not sure what RtA means at this part, and I can't really figure it out by context.] The named dragons all see invis. Hoshkar and Silverwing are roamers (pathers), and Bards' Bind Sight is great for tracking them down. Bards rule (for once)! [Yes, that's really in there]

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移動とかSafe PointはMap出さないと駄目で重くなるんで割愛。そういったMapは結構出てるし、わざわざつくるの 面倒くさいってのが大きな理由(笑)
[I'm not sure, but I think this is discussing the usefulness of a map at showing movement routes and safe spots. I don't see anything related to the actual content.]

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Named Dragon戦闘
必要SVは、230程度が目安です。大抵のDragonがDragon Charmという単体Charmを使うので、SVMも平行して上げておいた方が良いかもしれません。Ma x DmgはDragonによって違うかもしれませんが、大抵765程度だったと思います(俺様はBardなの で、基本的に殴られないのでわかりません(笑))。まあ、Dmgは大きくてもSoV Mobのように凶悪じゃないようです。
The top level goal for resists should be 230. Most dragons use [a spell ?] call Dragon Charm, so you should probably look to raise your SvMagic as well. The max damage varies by the dragon, but is generally around 765, I think (as a bard, I don't want to find out lol [yes, "(笑)" pretty much translates as "lol"]). Anyway, the damage is high, but not as brutal as Velious mobs.

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Silverwing 必要SV:SV-Magic
 VP最弱のDragonです。1000dmg/Gravity FluxであるChaos Breathを使ってきますが、SVMで簡単にResistできます。Hoshkar、Silverwin g共にRoaming Dragonで、近くにいるとAddするのでそれが恐いくらいです。HoshkarがAddしてもSilv erwingだけならKillできるくらい弱いです(笑)
Silverwing - Most important Resist: Magic
Veeshan's Peak's weakest dragon. Silverwing uses a 1,000 dmg Gravity Flux and Chaos Breath, but with enough SvM you can simply resist them. Hoshkar and Silverwing being roamers, if you get too close they will assist, which is scary. But Silverwing is so weak that if you're fighting Hoshkar and Silverwing adds, you'll probably be able to kill it (?).

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Hoshkar 必要SV:SV-Disease
 VP最強クラスのDragonです。というか、Silverwing以外どれもこれも強いんですが、特に 強いです。それというのも、1300dmg/Slow AEであるDiseased Cloudがキツいからです。戦闘エリアを広く取れれば例えばGorenaireのように戦えるのですが、 VPでは限られた戦闘エリアで戦うしかないのでかなり厳しい感じです。『殺られる前に殺れ』という感じでし ょうか。ちなみにGateを使って逃げるのも厄介な一因です。
Hoshkar - Most important Resist: Disease
Hoskar is in Veeshan's Peak's strongest class of dragon. That said, other than Silverwing they're all tough, but especially Hoshkar. It's the AoE 1300 dmg/slowing disease cloud that really does it. Compared to a fight in a wide-open area like Gorenaire, Veeshan's Peak's tightly-restricted fights can feel pretty harsh. It's a "kill them before they kill us" feeling. For what it's worth, [Hoshkar? something/someone else?] casting Gate to flee really contributes to the vexatiousness of it.

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Druushk 必要SV:SV-Magic
1500dmgのLightning Breathを使いますが、基本的にResistによるAll or Nothingで、凶悪な副次効果があるわけでもなし……SVさえしっかりしていれば、全滅する前には殺せ るという感じでしょうか。
Druushk - Most important resist: Magic
Druushk uses a 1500 dmg Lightning Breath, but resisting it is all or nothing. I don't want to make it sounds like it does no good, but even with solid resists... can you kill him before you wipe?

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Nexxona 必要SV:SV-Fire
 凶悪な減り方をするAE DoT/Snare、Stream of Acid を使います。取り敢えずこいつも殺される前に殺せ、というパターンです。VPのDragonはそんなんばっ かりです(笑) 32k制限最高! ちなみにKillはできたものの、その後DoTで死んだ人も多かったで す。
Nexxona - Most important resist: Fire
Nexxona uses a [rapidly dimishing? highly damaging?] AoE Dot/snare call stream of acid. This dragon keeps this "kill it before it kills you" pattern going. That's all there is to the Veeshan's Peak dragons lol. They've only got 32k hp! FYI, lots of people will die to the DoT, even after you've managed to kill the dragon.

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Xygoz 必要SV:SV-Magic
Spellを使用不可能にするMesmerizing Breathを使いますが……まあ、それだけですか? 弱さ的にはSilverwing程度かな。Bard 的にはJugさえしなければ、このBreathは意味がありません。歌いっぱなしならば、Song効果はあ りつづけるので全く恐くないんですね、このBreath。まあ、さくさくと勝てる部類です。
Xygoz - Most important resist: Magic
Xygoz casts Mesmerizing Breath, which stops you from casting spells... is that it? Seems almost as weak as Silverwing. If Bards could only Jug [meaning twist?], this breath would be totally meaningless. [Best guess at this section:] As long as you don't cancel the song, you'll still get the full effects of that one, even under this breath. Seems like it should be an easy victory.

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Phara-Dar 必要SV:SV-Magic
 多分VP最強Dragonです。Hoshよりも凶悪だと個人的には思います。900dmg/12sec Stun効果のあるStun Breathを12sec程度毎に使ってきます(笑) ガイルの小足払い→投げハメなみのハメですか?(笑 ) 内部データ的にLvl70とも噂される為か、充分SVがあってもResistを連続失敗することもあれ ば連続でResistできることもあります。こいつの為にわざわざ数十分Disc復帰をまってTryした程 強い相手です。そしてそのせいでOn Line Sleepする人が出て戦力的に上なのか下なのかよくわからない情況で勝ちました(笑) やはり殺られる前 に殺れ、ということで。
Phara-Dar - Most important resist: Magic
Probably the strongest dragon in Veeshan's Peak. I think Phara-Dar's even worse than Hosh. He casts a 900 dmg/12-second stun every 12 seconds lol. [At a guess, I think this sentence compares it to a Guile sweep/throw loop...?] [The rest of this is tough to understand... I'll try and get more up later on.]
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Old 02-15-2011, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yep. I got that from it as well. I was curious if the rest of the non-english text contained relevant information.

Other sites refer to a 2 minute spawn time.
Zone In VP then (laughs) Con / White and Red is just, Track, so do not worry no sense to use it.
Veeshan `s Peak is a small fish as the Mob,
· Racnar
· Guardian Wurm
· Lava Drake
There are three types. Any fixed / Roaming in a place that is none 90sec Repop. Faction does not have anything, the default is KoS. Frankly VP level and number of people coming to you (Even though a strong example), but small fish, 90sec repop so I was hardly to Kill few become a Raid. But is not the Exp you earn may be used (laughs)

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Old 02-17-2011, 02:52 PM
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Faction does not have anything, the default is KoS.
Faction is not always KoS. Entire zone is on Ring of Scale. Bards that choose Veeshan as their diety are not KoS. Anyone that has hunted bards across Norrath or MistMoore mobs enough to raise their faction to dubious will not be KoS. The dwarf king in Kaladim also gives a huge faction hit. IIRC, it was 7 kills of the king for max ally RoS faction. This is how most people raised their RoS faction.

There will be an entry in the maintenance logs about significantly decreasing the RoS faction hit from the dwarf king but I am too lazy to look it up. This didn't happen until much later I think just before VP was converted to an "elemental" tier zone around PoP.

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