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Old 03-24-2016, 06:54 PM
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I'll just let the Socialist Orwell speak for himself:

“The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word "war," therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that is exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and has been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three superstates, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed forever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This--although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense--is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.”
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:59 PM
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Unless you're referring to some NWO/Illuminati type of shit and then ... I agree with you.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:21 PM
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I'll just let the Socialist Orwell speak for himself:

“The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word "war," therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that is exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and has been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three superstates, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed forever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This--although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense--is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.”
No. That doesn't sound right and I doubt that's Orwell meant in any case.
Jeremy has the right of it.
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Old 03-25-2016, 01:38 AM
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Apparently a man has been arrested in the U.K for inciting racial hatred with the following tweet [TRIGGER WARNING]:




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Hope this shitbag is hit with the full force of the law. This kind of deplorable activity has no place in our society.
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UK Thought Police Arresting People Who May Offend Muslims

Winston Churchill 1899: "Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:23 AM
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Ehhh bit misleading considering America has the largest criminal justice system with many millions on probation...add mass incarceration and mass probation into the equation and it evens up the "free speech" America "has".

On probation you can get handed your full sentence just for talking to someone who complained you were rude to them. Your P.O. can violate you at any time, and for non-criminal offenses. "Your honor, hes being an asshole...give him 6 months" happens in Boston.

You can be brought before a judge for ANY REASON while on probation, even being annoying, and have your probation revoked. Still have friends that are P.O.'s Seen it happen 100 times.
Where do you get your tin foil? People don't get probation violations for being rude, you're just making shit up
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Old 03-25-2016, 05:02 AM
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Where do you get your tin foil? People don't get probation violations for being rude, you're just making shit up
Suck it up big boy.
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Old 03-25-2016, 05:14 AM
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Suck it up big boy.
Suck what up? The bullshit flowing out of your mouth?

My cousins friends ex girlfriend is a PO and he told me people goto jail for VOP if they are mean to me!
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:16 AM
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this is very true, but as far as hangovers go, i think its more of a "well this is just how I feel now" for the heavy drinker..

like, me? when I get a hangover im like EW I HATE THIS and pout.. but htats becuse I dont drink all the time

but for like my dad. he drinks all the fucking time, so for him its like, "welp this is life."

+ he comes from a generation of a lot less pussies than my gen.. my gen is like I like nintendo, merp.

Like he works for a living, i fucking reddit.
This made me snort.

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Old 03-25-2016, 08:41 AM
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Not that I'm defending his arrest but the source is quite clear on the fact that there were more than 1 tweets.

Also, people really need to stop making references to 1984. Not even North Korea is as fucked as the world in 1984. The comparisons are always superficial and/or misapplied.

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I'm not actually drawing a comparison or even referencing the book. I've not read it ^^. Several useful terms from it have bled into normal political discourse, one of those is wrongthink.
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:11 PM
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Apparently a man has been arrested in the U.K for inciting racial hatred with the following tweet [TRIGGER WARNING]:




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Hope this shitbag is hit with the full force of the law. This kind of deplorable activity has no place in our society.



Swish,

Could explain this situation?
Yeah I'll explain it, from the point of view of a white guy who isn't religious.

Basically the police and judicial system are hell bent on not offending muslims or anyone who isn't white. To that end, they score points with minority communities by arresting anyone who is white and who airs an opinion like that.

If someone robs someone for their phone here you get probably a suspended sentence, a fine and/or community service (painting fences and shit).

If someone white robs someone who isn't white for their phone and the police think it was racially motivated, you're probably going to get a small prison sentence (under 28 days) on top of the fine.

The whole situation is basically ridiculous. Muslims here (well actually everywhere) are great at using the political correctness to get what they want. My city has plans for a huge mosque to be built here in the middle of it, and nobody wants it, and there aren't enough muslims here to support one... but the local council are insistent on it because councillors don't want to be voted out of their seats, right?

Take a quick look at Luton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA6XcyXsxXU

Basically we're going to end up with a Muslim state in this country in 30 years, or a civil war unless the government start doing something.
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