Is red server dead?

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Grandbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have posted about my experience on R99 before and I came back to say that yes indeed this server is not for many new players. The reasons for this should be clear to most players.

#1 The server population is brutally low which makes groups very difficult to form at the best of times for new players.

#2 Some in the community who are heavily twinked, take great delight in getting YTs off poorly geared new players to the point of corpse camping and even ignoring LNS. To these players I say lol enjoy the dead server.

#3 Gear... It is so difficult for a new player to jump in due to a variety of factors.

A) Not everyone wants to kiss serious butt of total strangers to get gear good enough to be viable in PvP.

B) Most viable pvp gear drops and epics require a lot of help from older players, of which this server has very few who are interested in helping at all and which also ties into (A).

C) The PvE grind towards gear seems far more tedious than it is worth due to #1 and #2. The PvP along the way usually consists of a new player getting #2'd day after day after day with no real help except to be told not to PvP in zones where the #2 culprits love the stalk newbie victims. In other words, there is no real PvP @ this point, just simply being fodder week after week so some nerd can brag that he has the most YTs this day or week.

The alternative is to PvE for xp and gear in places where gear you will want does not drop and where the exp and grouping are sub par. People often do not exp in groups in Highpass Keep due to the distance to get there. Often after getting there and seeing just how slow the exp and loot drops can be a player then sees LFM in MM or Unrest etc. This means finding a port and often running all the way back across multiple zones just to get one.

#4 Some people here are so toxic that it just makes reading /ooc terrible. Don't get me wrong, it is not nearly as bad as Warcraft but at times its so bad that /ooc gets turned off or the ignore list gets so long that /ooc does not make sense due to not seeing what 30% of the comments are that get replied to.

In short, not enough people, not enough helpful people, not enough paths to getting viable pvp gear and enough toxic members in the community to make it worthless.

I have started playing on Zek and so far I have enjoyed it 1000% more than my time on Red1999. This is with a lvl 20 cap to start in the 1st week, no twinks and no cities captured yet for Good or Evil. Zek will have some issues but so far it is night and day vs Red1999.

Peace.

Sort of a downward spiral of fail. Server would have been better if not for poor decisions that were made in the first years, lack of care from devs and GMs in how the decisions they took severly affected a fragile population, which led to server pop being distilled to its worst elements, which led to more lacks of fucks given by staff, on and on like that. Im kind of happy with myself that i saw this coming from miles away and didnt waste a thousand hours here farming.

Im tempted to check out that new server

[Kerwin]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sort of a downward spiral of fail. Server would have been better if not for poor decisions that were made in the first years, lack of care from devs and GMs in how the decisions they took severly affected a fragile population, which led to server pop being distilled to its worst elements, which led to more lacks of fucks given by staff, on and on like that.

Im tempted to check out that new server

you are like a broken record dude you always say the same thing and nothing but negative toxic shit spewing towards p99

log out and never come back cuz no one would care

[Grandbeard]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sort of a downward spiral of fail. Server would have been better if not for poor decisions that were made in the first years, lack of care from devs and GMs in how the decisions they took severly affected a fragile population, which led to server pop being distilled to its worst elements, which led to more lacks of fucks given by staff, on and on like that.

Im tempted to check out that new server

If you want to have fun and a lot of PvP then the new server is for you. Imagine PvP for epics, gear and all kinds of goodies. Throw in cities we can conquer, guards we can give abilities like buffs and ports and you have a winner! The best part is the server can never become super unbalanced due to the commitment to wipe it in 6 months and start the next season. Maybe in a few seasons they will do Kunark as well and bump the reset to a year. All I know is I am no longer loggin on red.

Btw no need to ask for my gear on Red cause it all sucks. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Kerwin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you are like a broken record dude you always say the same thing and nothing but negative toxic shit spewing towards p99

log out and never come back cuz no one would care

LOL it is exactly that spirit that is driving Red into the sewer. The man only speaks the truth but u can't seem to handle it.

[tedsternator]

My crew of 5 dropped due to discord excitement burnout. I know 2 or 3 other semi-regular red players who did the same. If the point of the discord hype was to troll us off the server it's worked pretty well.

Nothing worse for a box than massive hype followed by absolute silence.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Kerwin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you are like a broken record dude you always say the same thing and nothing but negative toxic shit spewing towards p99

log out and never come back cuz no one would care

Im obviously having a little fun meta-pvping all the toxic vets who made it their goal in life to turn this server into a shithole. Most of the new folks can see exactly what im talking about, like how this new fish grandbeard just summed up what anyone with half a brain can analyze from the situation on red.

[Kerwin]

server is changing there is a 2nd guild that is doing well gaining new members everyday and have a good chance at competing empire

just because there is only 50 people on at 10 am on a workday doesnt mean server is dead

sorry no one wants you in their guild tho, have fun on new shit box that people can use mq2 on that will die soon

[Bionic]

At worst - It's dead.

At best - It's a rather empty ghost town of a server where even the best of efforts to acquire gains is going to be, for all intents and purposes, pointless.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Kerwin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry no one wants you in their guild tho, have fun on new shit box that people can use mq2 on that will die soon

After reading what ive just posted, you came to the conclusion that saying that no one wants me on their dying low pop server guild with a high percentage of toxic people like you is somehow going to irritate me. Ok.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Grandbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to have fun and a lot of PvP then the new server is for you. Imagine PvP for epics, gear and all kinds of goodies. Throw in cities we can conquer, guards we can give abilities like buffs and ports and you have a winner! The best part is the server can never become super unbalanced due to the commitment to wipe it in 6 months and start the next season. Maybe in a few seasons they will do Kunark as well and bump the reset to a year. All I know is I am no longer loggin on red.

EQ is an old game, this is the sort of revamp it needs, nostalgia isnt going to retain people forever. Ive suggested a couple of times here some kind of eve online / EQ hybrid mod for EQ servers, glad someone came up with something similar. Maybe after a few seasons someone can come up with a permanent, holdings server. Or MMO devs could stop sucking so bad and come up with a contemporary version of this with a brand new game.

[Spyder73]

The tears of Red make my junk stiffen. I am fully aroused by this thread