New to P99 and looking for tips on starting and SK or Paladin

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by phacemeltar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you probaby shoud roll sk, but youll regret not being an ogre. sk can probably do more with less, if youre planning this as your main. FD is invaluable.

Yeah bu but like they say, once you go blue, you never .. go .. back [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[elwing]

both classes are gear dependant, yes, but weapons on the server are cheap, and you can definately play until 30/40 with gear you find...

[Dacien]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this post says why you shouldn't solo on a pally or sk better than i ever could

Well I fail to mention I screw around a lot, exploring zones, and there've been a couple months-long breaks. It doesn't help that I was 42 before the XP penalty was removed. Doing what I've been doing without the playing around or downtime, I'd 60 without a doubt.

Let's just say I'm in no hurry to get into the raid scene.

[thufir]

My shadowknight was my first character and also my main. I have never felt the pinch of not being able to afford decent gear, and don't regret rolling a shadowknight as my first character, at all. Phacemeltar is probably right that you should roll an ogre if you do, though. Being an ogre is like being issued a special equipment slot at game start with an item that grants you +50 sta, +50 str, and frontal stun immunity. It's pretty ridiculous.

I did get some charity when I was starting out - some random guy gave me a Nathsar Greatsword in Nektulos Forest when I was level 8. (Thanks, random guy from 2 years ago!) But it wasn't difficult to find extra cash from there to afford things like bronze and banded (bronze is just fine if you are an ogre). And a Nathsar Greatsword really isn't that much money, anyway. A little patience farming up decaying skeletons and selling the bone chips in ec tunnel would let you afford one soon enough.

As was said above, knight classes can hold aggro without any special gear, and bronze and banded are cheap, easy to buy, and will tide you over AC-wise until you can get better stuff, many levels later. I was farming the divine aura idols in Highpass for awhile when I decided I finally needed to buy myself a few upgrades. So, yeah, if you decide to go that route don't worry so much about being poor or ill-equipped. Shadowknights are less gear-dependent and better at soloing up some money than most people give them credit for.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by Gnomish Elite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm looking to start off as either a Paladin or SK and am wondering what I can expect with roles in groups/raids, as well as solo ability in case I need to resort to it? Also I'm wondering how gear dependent these classes are at least early on, and what races I should consider for each?

- Your role in groups is to tank. Do you enjoy tanking? If so, both classes excel at this.

- Neither class plays a significant role in raiding, especially in Velious.

- Neither class is particularly good at soloing. Expect to mostly have to group to play EQ.

- Neither class is dependent on items when it comes to your primary job as a tank; to get and maintain mob aggro. You're thinking of a Warrior.

- If you're not min/maxing, then just pick the race that you think looks the coolest.

[mattydef]

I solo'd on my paladin to 51 in under 3 weeks. I also solo'd on my less geared SK to 35 so far perfectly fine. Play what you want don't just min/max. I usually make my decision by choosing a class that looks fun and picking the race that has the cooler looking armor.

[Tone23]

I rolled my first character who is a Human SK maybe little over a month or so ago, I am lvl 27 right now. I don't play all the time and I spend a lot of down time figuring out where I want to go haha. I went the first 15 levels with gear i looted and bought from NPC merchants. I was on my way to Freeport from Qeynos, when I was picking off some Gnolls outside of High Pass a lvl 60 druid came up to me and said my gear was terrible. I was rocking a mixture of patchwork/leather as I was saving my plat for a weapon, he asked me if this was my main and how long I had been playing he was then nice enough to port me to W Commons. When we got there he went to the bank hooked me up with a couple pieces of Sentient Armor and giant scalemail, along with a Sharkbone War Hammer. I got lucky, I then joined a guild and bought a 2hander for a decent price off a guildie.

My advice is start whatever you would like but don't get frustrated, I was worried about my crappy gear because i was proud to self finance myself. But a magic weapon is a must because you will run into undead which are invulnerable to regular weapons. I sorta feel like I cheated some by taking donations, but since this is my main and only character I dont regret it, if I decide I may do an alt and make the attempt to self finance my way.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Dacien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I fail to mention I screw around a lot, exploring zones, and there've been a couple months-long breaks. It doesn't help that I was 42 before the XP penalty was removed. Doing what I've been doing without the playing around or downtime, I'd 60 without a doubt.

Let's just say I'm in no hurry to get into the raid scene.

hehehe i figured, and people play everquest for different reasons! nothing wrong with that! but to be fair, you set me up with the perfect quote to describe how good pally soloing is [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Pyrion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SK is by far more popular because it is easier to solo (although a well played pally has some tricks here too, for example "jousting").

In this case, "Far" seems relative: Both classes are rather unpopular overall. Paladins are traditionally the least-popular class on Project1999, while Shadow Knights are usually about fourth from the bottom. The hybrids haven't really been able to shrug off the kunark-era bias against them.

Danth

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In this case, "Far" seems relative: Both classes are rather unpopular overall. Paladins are traditionally the least-popular class on Project1999, while Shadow Knights are usually about fourth from the bottom. The hybrids haven't really been able to shrug off the kunark-era bias against them.

I think it's also the Velious "no raid role for you" thing. If you want to endgame raid, you're not going to roll a paladin or shadowknight. You'll roll a class that has a purpose there. In Kunark they could tank raid mobs so you weren't feeling totally left out.