whats it feel like

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spirit is everything. Physicality is nothing.

The physical reflects the spiritual. Don't judge my spirituality on my physicality. My physicality is my own spirits to express because the physical is where we interact.

This is the life I'm living now and I wouldn't try to live it differently because I know what my dreams are and that to die knowing I did everything I could to attain my dreams... well that would be better dieing in regret at "surviving because it was totally safe and medically advisable".

Thankfully in my case the gatekeepers deam what I want medically advisable along with me. For a long time this wasn't true.

[Big_Japan]

I don't understand how you can be opposed to gatekeepers when you accept that there are people who begin transition impulsively or for the wrong reasons. Are you opposed to gatekeepers for addictive narcotics too? Those don't even necessarily have permanent effects.

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We agree. That's why I advise developing the true spirit rather than trying to reorganize the material plane to line up with the impulsive animal lusts fools mistake for their soul. That true spirit is infinitely adaptable; in that sense it is nothingness.

If you agree than why care so much what she does with her body? The physical is extremely fleeting and all we can know in the present so if changing her body allows her to find the true spirit, why not support it? If she fulfills this desire and finds the emptiness still there then she has still taken another step on the journey and can move on to the next. You should be supporting her attempts to grow and flourish, not trying to suppress them.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your man Hannity was said to have gone scorched earth last night against Rubio for the first time:

I already know that, but that is just someones elses buzz word reporting on what I already heard ranted earlier that day in full. And not related to the GOP going scorched earth. The only outlet I see the buzz word being used from is out of Becks hide-out, where I tread not.

I used to follow Beck's rantings a little years ago, but 2012 he threw support behind Romney, I never looked back. Becks a drama queen, and not a very entertaining one at that. Funny how he supported a pissant Romney, but says he will not vote for TRUMP if he get the nomination.

Oh, yeah then he apologizes for the Romney thing AFTER he pulls all that. Watch, TRUMP wins and he'll apologize for being wrong yet again.


ps and I find that odd, sometimes you seem like you come off like anti-religious (excuse me if I'm wrong) but then you follow/listen to crazy ass mofo's like Beck? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if changing her body allows her to find the true spirit, why not support it?

If I believed this were possible, I would without reservation. But the fact is that this is a direction only someone who were desperately confused and in danger would walk in, and the effects are irreversible. Not to say that it's impossible for it to be one of many trials on a path to enlightenment -- only that it's a trial from which only bad things including death can result. The only good that could possibly come of it is realizing what a fool's errand it is and surviving.

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If she fulfills this desire and finds the emptiness still there then she has still taken another step on the journey and can move on to the next.

This is the scenario I wish were guaranteed to play out.

Transitioning isn't something you can just do and undo. The sky-high suicide rate on postop trannies isn't indicative of a good proportion of people surviving that trauma and journeying further toward the light. This is an irreversible step, and distinct from legitimate methods of pursuing happiness in that regard.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand how you can be opposed to gatekeepers when you accept that there are people who begin transition impulsively or for the wrong reasons. Are you opposed to gatekeepers for addictive narcotics too? Those don't even necessarily have permanent effects.

I don't advocate trying to be a tyrant and control peoples lives and I don't sit here worrying about them or what they may or may not do. These people are a minority and if they didn't do this it would be something else. You can't change the spirit of people or their destiny or their karma.

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you agree than why care so much what she does with her body? The physical is extremely fleeting and all we can know in the present so if changing her body allows her to find the true spirit, why not support it? If she fulfills this desire and finds the emptiness still there then she has still taken another step on the journey and can move on to the next. You should be supporting her attempts to grow and flourish, not trying to suppress them.

Agreed. You are on point.

I questioned "why" it mattered so much. Why this might be a quest. Why I couldn't just be the way I was. I didn't understand. I can't really explain it. But I know this is right. And it feels right. It's like being without resistance. I don't know how to explain it....

But I think I get where BJ's buddhist is coming from it's just taken to an extreme. I know there's some monks that go out into the woods with nothing but their robes and journey for their spirtuality....

Fine, I wasn't and am not that being. I'm "Me (Name redacted)" on a journy to express my beauty and understand what it means to be a woman.

To talk about spirituality, I don't know why exactly... I was born trans. Perhaps because I wouldn't have "lived" if I was born nataly a woman? I have no idea. That doesn't change what I am now and who I am going to be and who I yearn to be.

People grow and evolve, the physical reflects that it's ok to be FREE to change the physical. It only changes when the spiritual side allows it. If you open your heart to an idea you can make it come true by simply looking at that idea and learning and having the universe provide opportunities...

I can't profess to really understand how the universe works. But I'm not really "on drugs" like you think. Being subjugated or living a sinful life.

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The sky-high suicide rate on postop trannies isn't indicative of a good proportion of people surviving that trauma and journeying further toward the light.

I question the correlation. Yes the rates are higher than i'd like, of course ANY is higher than I'd like, but how many of those people would have committed suicide anyway if they hadn't transitioned.

I understand your concern, that people use this in an attempt to mask the void but I don't believe maerilith is one of those.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I believed this were possible, I would without reservation. But the fact is that this is a direction only someone who were desperately confused and in danger would walk in, and the effects are irreversible. Not to say that it's impossible for it to be one of many trials on a path to enlightenment -- only that it's a trial from which only bad things including death can result. The only good that could possibly come of it is realizing what a fool's errand it is and surviving.



This is the scenario I wish were guaranteed to play out.

Transitioning isn't something you can just do and undo. The sky-high suicide rate on postop trannies isn't indicative of a good proportion of people surviving that trauma and journeying further toward the light. This is an irreversible step, and distinct from legitimate methods of pursuing happiness in that regard.

What's wrong with just accepting that being trans or transitioning is just a state of being some people have in this life? Why does it have to be a bad thing? It can be. It sometimes isn't.

That suicide rate is a different boatload of factors, and I would like to know what my suicide rate would be if I didn't transition?

Pre-transition I was suicidal every day. I was making plans. I was expecting the worst. I was expecting to die in a park like dayse. I was having a horrible life.

Now I rarely feel that way. I have a desire to live as me. And I'm grateful every day I can be me. I care about my life and the life of those around me in a way that I never did pre-transition. Because pre-transition I was hurt, angry, and confused, and "less then".

Trans people still deal with "less then" but it's better to be dealing with it than avoiding it just for some shitty cis male privilege.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't advocate trying to be a tyrant and control peoples lives and I don't sit here worrying about them or what they may or may not do.

so this is your argument after all:

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could arguably take the libertarian position here and say if someone wants to sell themself into slavery, or have all their limbs removed and be permanently transformed into a sex doll, or have bellows hooked up to their surgically added tits so they can be inflated/deflated by their Daddy, or whatever and if they were willing to pay a doc to render those services then it would be fine.

I don't agree with ur decision to sign a contract at age 18 forcing you to have all ur limbs amputated so u can serve in a sex prison for 30 years while the harem owner pays wild sums to your parents, but i will defend to the death ur right to make it. I foresee zero potential for horrific consequences.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't agree with ur decision to sign a contract at age 18 forcing you to have all ur limbs amputated so u can serve in a sex prison for 30 years, but i will defend to the death ur right to make it.

What I've been attempting to communicate is that this line of logic does not even relate to me or my experiences. OUCH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think my emotional distress is that you seem to be projecting the above scenario on to me which is entirely incorrect.