Why Do so many Conservitives play this FREE game?

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by Taryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was responding to someone supporting adjusting social policies to support other peoples' bad decision making skills. I did not rise to your troll bait- you weren't "testing" me like some transcendent being with all the answers, you simply didn't have any real counter to my own sarcastic response.

Essentially, we need to avoid changing policies with the specific intent of supporting bad planning/decision making. Resources are not infinite, and if someone chooses to have children early, or use drugs [excessively], to the point that they cannot support themselves, we should not provide a safety net. It only encourages irresponsible behavior.
That was the essence of my response. I am not a social planner, nor a political science major, thus I cannot save the world. Sorry. You'll have to look outside the P99 forums for salvation.

The most comforting words to these guys are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

People like them desperately need an over bearing State to control other people's lives. They believe that through the power of government, they can force you to conform to their ideals. What they don't realize is that if you can create a State that can destroy someone you hate, for not accepting your ideals, that same State can and may some day destroy you too.

History is rife with examples of this sort of backfire. Useful idiots throughout the ages have believed that they would ride the wave of Big Gov, only to find that they are crushed under it all the same.

[maerilith]

Even if Bernie fails, or only backs Hillary, his voice, and by proxy the voice of his voters is heard.

10 or 15 yrs ago someone like Bernie would have been stopped, mocked, and blocked from running.

At least now his voice is being heard.

It's not wrong to be progressive and promise progressive things. Those of you driving ferrari's aren't entitled to your ferrari's even though thats what America thinks this is about.

Your ferrari's are a privilage for living in this progressive civilization that through taxes and government protected your rights and privilage to have a ferrari and to work for that ferrari and to be educated and know about ferraris and to not be a fucking slaves.

We have a problem were the ferrari owners in general are ok, but some that own 10 or 12 ferrari's do so at the expense of protecting everyones rights to earn a ferrari if they are willing. And deliberately stop people from making a decent living and making ferrari's.

Suck on my ladyballs.

[Taryth]

Sidenote: I would love to be a Ferrari lord. Alas, I am a humble shitlord.
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[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Taryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sidenote: I would love to be a Ferrari lord. Alas, I am a humble shitlord.
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Post in the Ferrari lord thread, feel free to dig up a goog image from googles bing or yahooz!

Hell I have several other ferrari lord ideas, can always take a screenshot of a ferrari in second life, thats prob already out there! and post that.

Be as awesome as u want bro

[maskedmelon]

Lambo > Ferrari

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lambo > Ferrari

I'm open for this debate. I grew up in the 80's though, the first car I was exposed to was an Audi, then a buick, then porche, then ferraris then finally saw my first lambo in the movie theatre well after I hit puberty.

But, I can totally respect Ferraris and Lambos equally. I think it would be nice to have a few of both.

Ferraris are totally the more sex appeal racy curvey aesthetic fancy feminine car, while Lambos are def the new age modern spaceship masculine fighter jet titanium things.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if Bernie fails, or only backs Hillary, his voice, and by proxy the voice of his voters is heard.

10 or 15 yrs ago someone like Bernie would have been stopped, mocked, and blocked from running.

At least now his voice is being heard.

It's not wrong to be progressive and promise progressive things. Those of you driving ferrari's aren't entitled to your ferrari's even though thats what America thinks this is about.

Your ferrari's are a privilage for living in this progressive civilization that through taxes and government protected your rights and privilage to have a ferrari and to work for that ferrari and to be educated and know about ferraris and to not be a fucking slaves.

We have a problem were the ferrari owners in general are ok, but some that own 10 or 12 ferrari's do so at the expense of protecting everyones rights to earn a ferrari if they are willing. And deliberately stop people from making a decent living and making ferrari's.

Suck on my ladyballs.

The solution is def not to give everyone a free Ferrari. Something given has no value. This is why I believe those who sustain via government handouts have low self esteem. No one likes to take a handout. People will do it, but they often will hate you for having to take it. As well, when someone else is paying your way, that is not freedom.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The solution is def not to give everyone a free Ferrari. Something given has no value. This is why I believe those who sustain via government handouts have low self esteem. No one likes to take a handout. People will do it, but they often will hate you for having to take it. As well, when someone else is paying your way, that is not freedom.

There is merit to what your saying. But technological industrial civiliation has thrown this balance out of wack?

How do you suppose everyone is to make a proper living in this era and in 3rd-1st world countries.

This is where the true realization of what people are saying comes in.

I really don't mind contributing to society, I like it. But I've had a hard knock life that I feel was unjustly imposed on me because of my birth. Fuckton better than some peasent in mogidishu or china, but I seek the BETTERMENT of all of humanity (even possibly at the expense of some of it, yay (fascist)) but hey

This is something we all have to figure out. I believe in justice, liberty, and freedom for all. And I believe in making people accept the consequences of NOT GIVING a shit and drowning themselves in beer and lottos and babies and drugs, and debt, and all the other things.

I doubt free ferraris would fix a damn thing, but it's a good metaphor, and it would be funny, and is a good thought experiment from a technological standpoint (robots can def help make ferraris)

maybe the upper class will be the ferrari designers and engineers who maintain the robots mass producing ferraris for everyone on the moon as they get shipped back to us! (I don't know i'm just being my typical crazy self at this point)

And yes I totally understand why some people do justly own a fuckton of ferraris (and possibly lambos) but I also know there are a fuckton of assholes all over all walks of life and I have suffered a fuckton of humanities bullshit to the point where I'm cold and hard hearted and honestly I'm way more ruthless than trump even if i'm not lucky and succesful.

At the end of the day material things are pointless and have nothing to do with any particular persons contributions to society nor should be the measure of ones quality of life. Yet we make people suffer under the most horrendous conditions, because we can't share properly or figure out how to automate efficiently and properly, or fight over something needlessly instead of looking at the big picture.

/rant off i'm going to go eat some of my delicious factory fed chicken and GMO carrots and onions.

[Daywolf]

This is why Bernie, Hillary, Obama, Biden etc are not really Democrats, not from the Democrats of old, not the traditional Democrat party which has essentially been hyjacked. They're something else entirely: https://youtu.be/1iMsqW8dF-E

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is merit to what your saying. But technological industrial civiliation has thrown this balance out of wack?

How do you suppose everyone is to make a proper living in this era and in 3rd-1st world countries.

This is where the true realization of what people are saying comes in.

I really don't mind contributing to society, I like it. But I've had a hard knock life that I feel was unjustly imposed on me because of my birth. Fuckton better than some peasent in mogidishu or china, but I seek the BETTERMENT of all of humanity (even possibly at the expense of some of it, yay (fascist)) but hey

This is something we all have to figure out. I believe in justice, liberty, and freedom for all. And I believe in making people accept the consequences of NOT GIVING a shit and drowning themselves in beer and lottos and babies and drugs, and debt, and all the other things.

I doubt free ferraris would fix a damn thing, but it's a good metaphor, and it would be funny, and is a good thought experiment from a technological standpoint (robots can def help make ferraris)

maybe the upper class will be the ferrari designers and engineers who maintain the robots mass producing ferraris for everyone on the moon as they get shipped back to us! (I don't know i'm just being my typical crazy self at this point)

And yes I totally understand why some people do justly own a fuckton of ferraris (and possibly lambos) but I also know there are a fuckton of assholes all over all walks of life and I have suffered a fuckton of humanities bullshit to the point where I'm cold and hard hearted and honestly I'm way more ruthless than trump even if i'm not lucky and succesful.

At the end of the day material things are pointless and have nothing to do with any particular persons contributions to society nor should be the measure of ones quality of life. Yet we make people suffer under the most horrendous conditions, because we can't share properly or figure out how to automate efficiently and properly, or fight over something needlessly instead of looking at the big picture.

/rant off i'm going to go eat some of my delicious factory fed chicken and GMO carrots and onions.

Truly the main issue we face is over population. If you think about it, OP is the largest contributor to suffering in this world. Automation amplifies suffering, because fewer people are required to do the same tasks as before, yet we never stop creating new people. So what do they do?

We are hundreds if not thousands of years from unifying as a species, like some star trek type society. Someday though we will have to in order to reach the stars for real. Sadly though, even in that sort of world, there will be the down trodden because we can't stop breeding and someone has to clean the shit.