I'd take these guys more seriously

[maskedmelon]

Many black people do suffer because some commit crimes (disproportionately). It's hard for a man to take care of his children if he's in jail and it is equally hard on a child to grow up with a father in jail. It is hard on spouses and parents and siblings. And it is still hard on the individual amd their families when they get out because finding work can be difficult. And children in poor crime infested areas are more likely to be swept up in the same life styleAnd children in poor crime infested areas are more likely to be swept up in the same life style.

It's not about some collective punishment. It's about the association between criminality and poverty. And no, it doesn't affect all black people. Though I know many more unfairly suffer from associated perception and that is why addressing disproportionate criminality needs to be a priority for our nation as a whole.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think blacks commit more [total crime] than whites?

What Total Crime?

You mean like breaking laws?

Do you know how many laws there are? Say just federal laws? How about just gun laws? Gun laws they say 20,000 laws, just for guns. Just for guns! That's it!! Truth is, literally, no one knows just how many federal laws there are, and likely you broke a dozen today! My guess, but I could be off by a few hundred.

Turn yourself in, or you're a privileged white r4cist!

Violent crimes... well a little more complicated. I grew up with a mum and dah! I was taught respect, cutesy and to run in the opposite direction, not directly at the cops. But with the huge amount of broken families among black kids growing up? I don't know, is it my white ass fault for all the kids being raised like animals now?

And that is not just among black families, or lack thereof, but often the same outcome among other ethnic groups as the family unit falls apart. It's not a black or white issue, it's just that blacks have been ravaged by their leaders, not crying out for the healing of the family, but just blame blame blame at everyone else.

More laws solves nothing, just confuses us into lawlessness.

[jarshale]

These brave patriots are defending our Constitution and you libscum sheeple just make fun of them. Enjoy your FEMA death camps when Obummer announces martial law.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many black people do suffer because some commit crimes (disproportionately). It's hard for a man to take care of his children if he's in jail and it is equally hard on a child to grow up with a father in jail. It is hard on spouses and parents and siblings. And it is still hard on the individual amd their families when they get out because finding work can be difficult. And children in poor crime infested areas are more likely to be swept up in the same life styleAnd children in poor crime infested areas are more likely to be swept up in the same life style.

It's not about some collective punishment. It's about the association between criminality and poverty. And no, it doesn't affect all black people. Though I know many more unfairly suffer from associated perception and that is why addressing disproportionate criminality needs to be a priority for our nation as a whole.

As you are singing a much different tune now, I will drop the subject. I'm glad we agree that, we, as a nation, must make an effort to solve the problem, instead of guffawing about how bad blacks are.

Debate Time!!!

[maskedmelon]

You'd make a great politician ^^

[maerilith]

As far as I can tell by reading CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rancher-...lavoy-finicum/

This guy was armed, dangerous, had a warrant out for him, and these people were occupying federal land that wasn't even in disupte.

They were just trying to incite violence. They weren't peaceful protesters, that guy participated in the Nevada/Southern Utah rancher thing.

AFAIK there's good circumstantial, and anecdotal evidence, these events were related to white collar criminals, rich white criminal scum, and organized crime. Also $$ and they pissed off a lot of people in the world.

The FBI was just given the shitty order to go round em up cowboy, so to speak.

But these whites thought they were above their day in court and decided that whining about guns and federal government was the way to get out of it all.

I think TLDR, it's not right to even endanger law enforcement over your criminality and political views. If you want to make a statement it's better to be heard in a civilized way then brandishing guns and threatening to go down fighting and starting rebellion. Whatever this cowboy was trying to say was definitely lost on me. And I'm pretty adamant about peoples freedoms.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many black people do suffer because some commit crimes (disproportionately). It's hard for a man to take care of his children if he's in jail and it is equally hard on a child to grow up with a father in jail. It is hard on spouses and parents and siblings. And it is still hard on the individual amd their families when they get out because finding work can be difficult. And children in poor crime infested areas are more likely to be swept up in the same life styleAnd children in poor crime infested areas are more likely to be swept up in the same life style.

It's not about some collective punishment. It's about the association between criminality and poverty. And no, it doesn't affect all black people. Though I know many more unfairly suffer from associated perception and that is why addressing disproportionate criminality needs to be a priority for our nation as a whole.

A lot of these people jailed, are jailed for shit you and I and everyone else does... Like have a gram of weed on them.

The only real conspiracy that holds water is institutional racism. We have to at least acknowledge it before we can fix what you're suggesting we fix in your quoted post.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of these people jailed, are jailed for shit you and I and everyone else does... Like have a gram of weed on them.

The only real conspiracy that holds water is institutional racism. We have to at least acknowledge it before we can fix what you're suggesting we fix in your quoted post.

U sound mad that u aren't black and that weed is a thing.

Pro-tip, don't smoke weed, become educated, learn2 aristocracy.

[iruinedyourday]

Hey take this downturn in your manic depression and turn it upside down mer. I gotchu <3

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey take this downturn in your manic depression and turn it upside down mer. I gotchu <3

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