TMO, Bluebies who tried Red! Give me your horror stories of grief and despair

[Muggens]

I like the Red server, but Ive not played all that much on it.
I made a character there with the idea of trying to stay alive and roleplay myself out of dangerous situations, which was quite funny and immersive. I made a bunch of /say macros Id could flash out quick when attacked by crazies. My erudite would not attack other people without a provocation, would stay on the toes around trolls, ogres and other folks of suspicious nature and I managed to not stay alive in CB area for 15 levels at least.
But alas, one day I stepped out of the treehouse platform and some geared up Elf Paladin attacked my back, I couldnt do anything to him either because of the guards was on his side. I said "Hold it brotha Paladin, what have come into you, attacking your bretheren instead of giving a helping hand!?" Well, lets say that didnt help and he kept killing me over and over again before I camped. Will check in some day maybe, but havent gotten the urge yet.
I did also get the Gitmo treatment once, you know where you get blinded and raped and left with just a sliver of hp to just feel the shame take over. It happened in CB, he zoned out, perhaps embarresed, but I sent him a tell, asking him if these kinda things also happened to him when he came to these lands, and that he forever after just had the urge to drop into Crushbone and do the same to other younglings, if it helped his trauma? Dunno, maybe something triggered in his brain because he returned and healed my wounds and gave me some buffs.
I would recommend Red sure.

[Tewaz]

I got to 57 on Red and enjoyed it a decent amount. The server really is full of some of the saddest humans I have ever encountered. High unemployment rate and an attitude of absolute deprivation toward healthy and meaningful lives abounded. I would guess half the server are very depressed and lonely individuals. It was fun being able to meet some great people to really bond with and have each others backs, but the low population made it brutal when you couldn't play with those people.

The people that play are the best pvpers I've seen in any game and they are incredibly creative in the ways they will try to attack you. I really liked the idea of raiding with pvp as a possibility since blue raiding is one of the most frustrating things I ever witnessed. The reality is that the same factor that governs raids on blue applies to red: he with the least real life responsibilities gets the raid target. I would love to pvp your raid, but I'm not getting up at 3 AM on a Tuesday to do it.

I recommend red. It is one of the most unique gaming experiences available, but I recommend you leave when you hit level 52+ to avoid interacting with humans that are stuck in eternal neckbeard purgatory.

[veemoda]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The people that play are the best pvpers I've seen in any game and they are incredibly creative in the ways they will try to attack you.

This.

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would love to pvp your raid, but I'm not getting up at 3 AM on a Tuesday to do it.

This is not the case. ALL raid mobs are left up for a minimum of 48 hours and all raids occur between 7pm and 11pm EST allowing any smaller guilds unrestricted access to any raid encounter.

[brecon]

The biggest problem for a leveling character is if a 'PVPer' finds you, they will make sure you leave the zone. They don't really care how - they want the kill, but if you take an xp death or plug, they are okay with that too. If they start losing the encounter, they will just train your group and kill everyone. Beastagor is famous for fearing your pets (even OOR characters), then trying to snipe a YT during the confusion...nevermind the fact that the entire group will wipe as a result.

Also, most PVPers don't care about taking an xp death (ex: Rogues). They'll get a rez. The YT is more important to them than the pain of moving over a cleric to get a rez.

Knowing that these are the scum you are dealing with, any tactic is legitimate. Don't force yourself to play by anyone else's rules. Camping to avoid PVP, running away, snaring mobs at the ZL are all legit tactics. I think these are the important things for a Blue player to know coming over: PVPers only attack when the odds are in their favor, so never allow them to take advantage of that.

The most fun I had was one day I was in a full xp leveling group with a druid, and this group of Empire wouldn't stop wandering around Norrath trying to prevent us from xping. They even came to Kedge Keep. We were all sub-60, most sub-56, and outmatched. So every time this group found us, we just ported out to our next XP location. They must have wasted 4 hours running around without a single engage.

[brecon]

edit: even when OOR characters are present. You can't fear an OOR toon's pet obvi.

[Juevento]

Population aside, the rule set on red is really poorly conceived. It should be absolutely forbidden to attack someone while they are engaged on a mob. If you cause someone exp loss, you ought to eat a ban or suspension for griefing.

The loot and scoot rule is backwards, should be the killer enforcing it not the dead person invoking it.

Finally, the no teams thing is really unfortunate. As someone who only played Live on VZ, the no teams thing is really a killer.

Fix those things, then come begging for people to play there.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Population aside, the rule set on red is really poorly conceived. It should be absolutely forbidden to attack someone while they are engaged on a mob. If you cause someone exp loss, you ought to eat a ban or suspension for griefing.

The loot and scoot rule is backwards, should be the killer enforcing it not the dead person invoking it.

Finally, the no teams thing is really unfortunate. As someone who only played Live on VZ, the no teams thing is really a killer.

Fix those things, then come begging for people to play there.

as a casual in thunderdome, ex-empire, no

engaging people in raid gear while they are quad-kiting is an A+ strat for casuals

[Raev]

The 10 reasons are all 'the toxic community'. When I tried Red I really wanted to like it if only to escape the idiocy known as variance. I even transferred like 200k blue pp over. But I concluded I would rather stab my eye out with a sharp pencil then spend significant time with the people that inhabit that server.

[veemoda]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would guess half the server are very depressed and lonely individuals.