The Sleeper to be awoken tonight in Rampage's final raid.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As soon as (mob died) members from (killing guild) sent out tells to multiple people in other guilds linking loot from (dead mob). Most of us were just trying to get to a place to (kill the same mob). Not a lot of (killing guild) members. They were busy sending tells to gloat. Just the truth.

Sounds like every single raid on the server from the last 5 years.

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As soon as the Sleeper woke members from Rampage sent out tells to multiple people in other guilds linking loot from Sleepers. Most of us were just trying to get to a place to see the Sleeper Rampage. Not a lot of Rampage members. They were busy sending tells to gloat. Just the truth.

/shrug

To be completely fair people probably wouldn't have rubbed it in your faces if Detoxx wasn't in ST talking shit the entire time we were waking the sleeper.

[snow_man]

Gawd, half this thread is decent... other half needs to get moved over to RnF.

Sadly, I miss the days of Raid Mob rotation. 95% of the server could just ignore the TMO/IB threads bashing each other because it didn't matter. They had their 2 cycles (FFA/Competitive) and the rest of the server had their one week...

Sure, we didn't go into VP, only got every 9th spawn (2 lock outs in between), but the game was so much more enjoyable. I remember the sole dilema for most guilds was, "think we can do this solo?" not can we power level 3 more mages for this spot and 5 for this one...etc.

I would love to see a CSG vulak attempt (and I'm not even in a CSG).

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. So he hit the wrong button? Clearly the javelin wasn't part of an autofire script, because everyone gets FTEs with clickies.

2. Prove it. They might unban Omnia if you show them how <shrug>

1. With audio triggers for FTE messages and supposedly staring at his screen spamming a button. I doubt in the 4 seconds it took for the mob to get to him he didn't have time to correct a wrong button push. The guy was AFK.

2. You can bind 2 keys to any macro. You can also choose to mouse click the clicky at the same time. You can bind multiple things to one key. In the sit on spawn days in VP as a Monk I had a Brazier pet(/pet attack macro), /target macro, a clicky, and target npc all bound to 2 keys. DA idol and discs were bound to keys right next to it. My window spam was 4 times worse than what you saw in that fraps and I can guarantee you I didn't use anything that automated it.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, THIS is the vaunted Moosejaw fraps that you guys have been talking about? It looks like every noble engage ever. You can see about 5-10 of your players attack instantly as well. So Rampage had a 25-30% chance based on numbers alone, and Hokushin and Cal both live in the north east (very low ping) and have a few FTE tricks that you may not know about.

I have (without AF) won a 100 man Noble FTE in the past, contested late window RF click fests, etc. My technique on spam clicking is fine. I live in the NE as well with very low ping. There are a handful of other FA members in that screenshot that I know use the right spam technique. There is just no possible way that Hoku and Cal can start their casting spell graphic in unison 1/4 seconds before any of us even moved. It's as clear cut AF as I can imagine. Ask any Asgardian who was in vent when these fraps were first being discussed. Before I watched them I was trying to talk everybody off the ledge because it most likely was impossible to prove. Then I watched the fraps.

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only thing that fraps really proves is that Forsaken/Asgard tried to get Cekenar into summoning range by malleting him and then attacking him for 20 seconds.

I've heard that this is an actual opinion that you guys countered with when we called you on AF originally. I lost a lot of respect for you guys when I found out this thought actually inhabited your collective brains.

A&W cream soda.

[Charm]

Each week set each guild to do a certain zone like week 1

Rampage - ToV
Forsaken - Kael + Dain + Yelinak
N/A - VP
N/A - all Kunark Dragons
N/A - ST (Depends on Keys)

so each week a raiding guild has something to do and they can make their own times

Mon- Sunday Probem solved no more poopsocking

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have (without AF) won a 100 man Noble FTE in the past, contested late window RF click fests, etc. My technique on spam clicking is fine. I live in the NE as well with very low ping. There are a handful of other FA members in that screenshot that I know use the right spam technique. There is just no possible way that Hoku and Cal can start their casting spell graphic in unison 1/4 seconds before any of us even moved. It's as clear cut AF as I can imagine. Ask any Asgardian who was in vent when these fraps were first being discussed. Before I watched them I was trying to talk everybody off the ledge because it most likely was impossible to prove. Then I watched the fraps.



I've heard that this is an actual opinion that you guys countered with when we called you on AF originally. I lost a lot of respect for you guys when I found out this thought actually inhabited your collective brains.

A&W cream soda.

As far as the whole you can't spam that fast, you absolutely can, as far as your technique is concerned based off what Lazie, and other have said it isn't optimal and is probably why you lost the jav spam competitions, but based off that fraps from Detoxx I don't think his clicking speed was what got him the autofire suspension.

As far as the getting Cekenar into summoning range thing is concerned, it looks fairly clear that a decent amount of F/A went to attack Cekenar after Rampage had gotten FTE. Not saying your entire guilds tried to do it, but a decent amount of people went and attacked Cekenar for no real reason, I can only assume that their plan was to get it into summoning range to summon our FTE'er.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like every single raid on the server from the last 5 years.

Daldaen said they did it solely for a guild first and for the enjoyment of the accomplishment. I was pointing out that was not true. Again there was one reason that some of the officers in Rampage chose to Wake the Sleeper and it wasn't because of the claims being made. I for one know you were a huge proponent of not waking it in TMO. There is only one reason to do so with the knowledge we all have of Velious and that is spite and to limit others. We all already knew the results of him wakening.

EDIT: Anyone watching Hokushin's stream heard the Teamspeak and the people constantly talking about Detoxx and the things they were going to stop him from getting.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Endonde [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as the whole you can't spam that fast, you absolutely can, as far as your technique is concerned based off what Lazie, and other have said it isn't optimal and is probably why you lost the jav spam competitions.

As far as the getting Cekenar into summoning range thing is concerned, it looks fairly clear that a decent amount of F/A went to attack Cekenar after Rampage had gotten FTE. Not saying your entire guilds tried to do it, but a decent amount of people went and attacked Cekenar for no real reason, I can only assume that their plan was to get it into summoning range to summon our FTE'er.

I was around 50/50 with that technique. /shrug

Again it is down to ping and timing unless something outside the game mechanics is being used. No one person in those situations can consistently win. You want as many button pushes as possible to time when the mob spawns. The more you have and the more ways you can aggro the mob the better chance you have. Pets won a lot of FTE's in VP.

[Morlaeth]

Still waiting to hear from Detoxx regarding his wizard. Banned or suspended?

Heard he is blaming it on account sharing? Sure looked like his UI in that fraps.