Conservatism vs Progressivism

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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im going to try to have a discussion about the failed conservative movement vs the neverending march of progress.

I will list a few examples of failed conservative programs please, if you think conservatism is the way to go, feel free to post a failed progressive program or ideal.

Try to refrain from posting your opinions on whether something has failed, or at least try to find bipartisan support that indicates that the ideal or program you posted about is indeed a failure.

Examples of Conservative policies, programs or ideals that are complete and total failures:

The War on Drugs - This is a catastrophic failure that has done nothing to stop drug use and in many cases increased crime and drug use across the nation. The very idea that it is still an active policy is depressing.

Privatised Prison system - It's in the fucking constitution, just like the 2nd amendment is, that we should not live under the threat of cruel and unusual punishment. But nobody seems to care about that.

Standardized Testing/No child left behind - This is the most retarded way to think about education. it is a complete and total failure.

Trickle Down Economics - There are no economists that disagree that this is a myth

Nixon’s National Health Insurance proposal of 1974 - Basically the patient zero for the complete meltdown of any semblance of healthcare america ever had, resulting in the failed system we have been trying to change for the last 8 years.

the list does and will go on and on... go ahead, name me one known failed progressive system.

PS one thing you can connect all the dots to when it comes to republican policy - they all are designed to disenfranchise black americans. So if you're going to be honest, then they are all quite successful.. the problem is if you're going to be honest, you're a racist piece of shit neocon.

You really hate Conservatives. Lets see what your amazing DEMs have done for us in the past.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt - Created the Welfare system and every Dem has used that atrocity to secure votes and keep people in poverty.

That system has millions of American's being comfortable sitting at home collecting money while everyone else pays for them.

President Jimmy Carter - Stopped our money being backed by Gold and placed on the Fiat system. Created Department of Energy and Department of Education. Just keep making the Federal Gov't BIGGER! Nothing else needs to be said.

President Bill Clinton - Went to the Federal Reserve, AIG and other major lenders and told them to make it easier for people to get housing loans. So, what did this create. It had people getting housing loans for more than they could possibly pay back.

How is this possible??

You went to your local bank. You asked for a $400,000 loan for a house. The local bank knew you could only afford a house for $200,000 but gave you the 400k loan anyways. Why you ask?? Because the bank would immediately sell your mortgage loan to the Federal Reserve. So, when you defaulted it wouldn't be local bank out of money on that loan it fell on the Federal Reserve holding that mortgage.

This is what created the housing market crash! Not Bush.

This is the reason the economy was booming during Clinton. People were getting loans they couldn't afford because local banks did not have to worry about you defaulting on the loan.

President Obama- Socialist Muslim doing his best to destroy the fabric of everything this country has stood for. At every turn he has sympathized with Muslim groups and released 5 of the most dangerous detainees in GTMO for a fucking Army deserter without any type of approval. He is constantly playing on the violence in America to create riots and do everything possible to abolish the 2nd Amendment.