Making a Murderer

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love documentaries. Especially ones based on finding missing persons and solving murders. Gut-wrenching stuff at times, like the Paradise Lost series. That kind of stuff makes me cry. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paradise lost:

 

did you finnish paradise lost tho? all 3 of them? the third one is... spolilers..................>>> tears of joy!

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paradise lost:

 

did you finnish paradise lost tho? all 3 of them? the third one is... spolilers..................>>> tears of joy!

 

Yeah, I saw! That was awesome but still bittersweet to me. Those guys had their lives ruined because people were really crazy retarded about so-called devil worship. Livin in dat bible belt must really suck. The only fun times to be had: joining hysterical witch hunts and jumping on bandwagons.

Anyone with a brain could see through Damian back then. Just a rebellious teen doing the whole goth thing for fuck's sake..

The worst part is the true killer (one of the dads) got away with it. Those poor little boys. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

 

Yeah, I saw! That was awesome but still bittersweet to me. Those guys had their lives ruined because people were really crazy retarded about so-called devil worship. Livin in dat bible belt must really suck. The only fun times to be had: joining hysterical witch hunts and jumping on bandwagons.

Anyone with a brain could see through Damian back then. Just a rebellious teen doing the whole goth thing for fuck's sake..

The worst part is the true killer (one of the dads) got away with it. Those poor little boys. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

 

inst it amazing tho (I'm sure you just as I did, just as everyone I've ever known did) was sure the father of one of the boys, that crazy ass dude, was the murderer? For two documentaries, for years in between them I was sure it was him.. then all of the sudden they introduce this new suspect that third doc that had pretty much completely left out, that was never really investigated and its like 10 seconds of his interview your like HOLY SHIT THAT FUCKER DID IT WHOAH! so much so even the dad was like IT WASN'T THESE KIDS, IT WAS THIS GUY!... that just really stuck with me how you can see so much evidence, be so convinced about something, and so quickly can be proved wrong, whoah!!!

another thing I thought was suuuuuper interesting was in part 2, there is a new crime scene investigator looking at the evidence for the documentary and he is just like, left and right throwing out all these amazing statements about the evidence that you're like HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS AMAZING! he knows EVERYTHING about this scene, how could they still be in jail?! with this guy knowing so much amazing shit!?!! he is SO SMART!!... but then then again, in the 3rd documentary, they bring out an even better attorney that is like, "uh those are not knife marks, they are from a coyote and they generally eat the groin because of the soft flesh etc etc and its like EVERYTHING the guy in part two said, (who seemed so smart and correct when reviewing all the evidence) gets completely dashed apart by this even better attorney.

It just really showed me in that doc how you can believe something, you can think it makes so much sense, you can even see it in court TWICE and have many people insist that X means Y and you'll believe it, but you can STILL be wrong.

There was so much I thought was so right, so much that everyone Ive known thought was right about that case that was just ripped apart by the amazing attorney hired in part three, that it just really is eye opening that its just damn hard to tell what the fuck actually really happened in any situation like that.

I dont think I could be a juror cus id just be like, INNOCENT! HES INNOCENT IDK WTF IDK HOW WE CAN THINK WERE RIGHT. I CANT SEND SOMEONE TO JAIL FOR SOMETHING IDK. INNOCENT.

So yea id make a terrible juror heh

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

 

inst it amazing tho (I'm sure you just as I did, just as everyone I've ever known did) was sure the father of one of the boys, that crazy ass dude, was the murderer? For two documentaries, for years in between them I was sure it was him.. then all of the sudden they introduce this new suspect that third doc that had pretty much completely left out, that was never really investigated and its like 10 seconds of his interview your like HOLY SHIT THAT FUCKER DID IT WHOAH! so much so even the dad was like IT WASN'T THESE KIDS, IT WAS THIS GUY!... that just really stuck with me how you can see so much evidence, be so convinced about something, and so quickly can be proved wrong, whoah!!!

another thing I thought was suuuuuper interesting was in part 2, there is a new crime scene investigator looking at the evidence for the documentary and he is just like, left and right throwing out all these amazing statements about the evidence that you're like HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS AMAZING! he knows EVERYTHING about this scene, how could they still be in jail?! with this guy knowing so much amazing shit!?!! he is SO SMART!!... but then then again, in the 3rd documentary, they bring out an even better attorney that is like, "uh those are not knife marks, they are from a coyote and they generally eat the groin because of the soft flesh etc etc and its like EVERYTHING the guy in part two said, (who seemed so smart and correct when reviewing all the evidence) gets completely dashed apart by this even better attorney.

It just really showed me in that doc how you can believe something, you can think it makes so much sense, you can even see it in court TWICE and have many people insist that X means Y and you'll believe it, but you can STILL be wrong.

There was so much I thought was so right, so much that everyone Ive known thought was right about that case that was just ripped apart by the amazing attorney hired in part three, that it just really is eye opening that its just damn hard to tell what the fuck actually really happened in any situation like that.

I dont think I could be a juror cus id just be like, INNOCENT! HES INNOCENT IDK WTF IDK HOW WE CAN THINK WERE RIGHT. I CANT SEND SOMEONE TO JAIL FOR SOMETHING IDK. INNOCENT.

So yea id make a terrible juror heh

 

Lol, it's possible I need to watch #3 again. Seems like I've forgotten some things. I know they get released eventually but I can't remember a lot of it. They were all really good and totally worth watching again.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

 

Lol, it's possible I need to watch #3 again. Seems like I've forgotten some things. I know they get released eventually but I can't remember a lot of it. They were all really good and totally worth watching again.

yea part 3 is the most mind blowing of them all, so much is just flipped turned upside down.

I cant recommend re watching it enough... and guys I cant recommend watching the entire trilogy enough, do it if you liked MaM!

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That whole "Bush knocked down the towers" or "it was an inside job" thing. I thought you all were just kidding. Wow. I had no idea... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you're finally ready to hear this Sidelle.

As comical as specific conspiracy theories about thermite, remote controlled black drone planes, and other unproveable bullshit are, I am being quite serious every time i say "bush knocked down the towers".

Considering that the best you can say of Mossad is that it knew what was coming and allowed it to happen, plus considering that the hijackers were all Saudi-connected, plus considering the close Bush family connection to Saudi, plus considering the Bush family connection to CIA (president of USA previously had literally inherited the CIA immediately after the MKULTRA/Phoenix Program days, click link if that does not sound familiar), plus considering the Bush affiliate business interests which boomed magnificently as a direct result of the attack's ramifications, I'd say you're stretching your faith in humanity pretty fucking far to say incompetence and callous opportunism were the worst sins committed by US officials with respect to 9/11. Shit you just said you already know girl what am I goin on about.

These are the same people who justify "extraordinary rendition" and gitmo practices to continue the MKULTRA line of inquiry into the scientific formula that breaks any human. It would appear starving men until they are forced to beg a leather daddy to be fed with ground chickpeas up the ass is the thrilling result of these decades of illegal, unethical, and unscientific research on humans.

Hold up let me hit this shit.
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Now, as a direct result of the laws passed in response to 9/11, these very same demons have access to the bulk communications data of the majority of the internet-connected world for the scientific refinement of psyops and the manipulation of human discourse on the population scale. Finally there is a machine which can collate psychological data about humans on such a scale as to make lines of research into the final suppression of the human spirit feasible, and a legal framework that allows it to happen. Which propaganda technique resulted in the greatest repetition of our keyphrases in human discourse both public and private? Which suppression/distraction techniques resulted in the optimal reduction of keyphrases we desire to minimize? The Earth as one extremely large psychological laboratory, collecting better data than any other lab ever has as the test subjects are utterly blind to what is happening and never consent to the test.

The whole privacy/blackmail thing most people bring up when talking about universal surveillance is scary, but it's a trivial side benefit compared to the real function -- literally harnessing the power of Lucifer.

Google already transcribes my voice mail with frightening accuracy. If you think the idea of kilobyte-sized transcriptions of all the voice picked up by these always-on devices (which are already listening for "Okay google" 24/7) being fed into a database for the population-scale monitoring of every human interaction, even those conducted offline, is moonbat tinfoil never gonna happen, you're probably just too frightened to face the inevitable future. And that's me being optimistic enough to not call it the present, only because the machine is maybe not yet refined enough to deal with the extreme backlash that would come from such a revelation becoming public. No, this tech is too important to be rejected; it will be introduced very gradually.

The collection infrastructure is growing rapidly, the data stockpile is growing exponentially, and there is currently a Manhattan Project style operation underway to unlock the secrets sitting in that data. We live in the precursor to the darkest times humanity will ever know, enjoying the last gasp of the Enlightenment. Whoever did 9/11, and whatever their intentions (highly likely they were unwitting pawns shopping for 72 virgins as advertised), they triggered the greatest and most fundamentally civilization-altering coup in the history of mankind.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by James_Joyce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you're finally ready to hear this Sidelle.

As comical as specific conspiracy theories about thermite, remote controlled black drone planes, and other unproveable bullshit are, I am being quite serious every time i say "bush knocked down the towers".

Considering that the best you can say of Mossad is that it knew what was coming and allowed it to happen, plus considering that the hijackers were all Saudi-connected, plus considering the close Bush family connection to Saudi, plus considering the Bush family connection to CIA (president of USA previously had literally inherited the CIA immediately after the MKULTRA/Phoenix Program days, click link if that does not sound familiar), plus considering the Bush affiliate business interests which boomed magnificently as a direct result of the attack's ramifications, I'd say you're stretching your faith in humanity pretty fucking far to say incompetence and callous opportunism were the worst sins committed by US officials with respect to 9/11. Shit you just said you already know girl what am I goin on about.

These are the same people who justify "extraordinary rendition" and gitmo practices to continue the MKULTRA line of inquiry into the scientific formula that breaks any human. It would appear starving men until they are forced to beg a leather daddy to be fed with ground chickpeas up the ass is the thrilling result of these decades of illegal, unethical, and unscientific research on humans.

Hold up let me hit this shit.
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now, as a direct result of the laws passed in response to 9/11, these very same demons have access to the bulk communications data of the majority of the internet-connected world for the scientific refinement of psyops and the manipulation of human discourse on the population scale. Finally there is a machine which can collate psychological data about humans on such a scale as to make lines of research into the final suppression of the human spirit feasible, and a legal framework that allows it to happen. Which propaganda technique resulted in the greatest repetition of our keyphrases in human discourse both public and private? Which suppression/distraction techniques resulted in the optimal reduction of keyphrases we desire to minimize? The Earth as one extremely large psychological laboratory, collecting better data than any other lab ever has as the test subjects are utterly blind to what is happening and never consent to the test.

The whole privacy/blackmail thing most people bring up when talking about universal surveillance is scary, but it's a trivial side benefit compared to the real function -- literally harnessing the power of Lucifer.

Google already transcribes my voice mail with frightening accuracy. If you think the idea of kilobyte-sized transcriptions of all the voice picked up by these always-on devices (which are already listening for "Okay google" 24/7) being fed into a database for the population-scale monitoring of every human interaction, even those conducted offline, is moonbat tinfoil never gonna happen, you're probably just too frightened to face the inevitable future. And that's me being optimistic enough to not call it the present, only because the machine is maybe not yet refined enough to deal with the extreme backlash that would come from such a revelation becoming public. No, this tech is too important to be rejected; it will be introduced very gradually.

The collection infrastructure is growing rapidly, the data stockpile is growing exponentially, and there is currently a Manhattan Project style operation underway to unlock the secrets sitting in that data. We live in the precursor to the darkest times humanity will ever know, enjoying the last gasp of the Enlightenment. Whoever did 9/11, and whatever their intentions (highly likely they were unwitting pawns shopping for 72 virgins as advertised), they triggered the greatest and most fundamentally civilization-altering coup in the history of mankind.

Dumb but this was a fun post to read holy shit

5 stars

[Lu|zSect]

Known security lapses exploited until the game was patched is more likely than a planned conspiracy

Entertaining theory however big J

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paradise lost:

 

did you finnish paradise lost tho? all 3 of them? the third one is... spolilers..................>>> tears of joy!

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

 

Yeah, I saw! That was awesome but still bittersweet to me. Those guys had their lives ruined because people were really crazy retarded about so-called devil worship. Livin in dat bible belt must really suck. The only fun times to be had: joining hysterical witch hunts and jumping on bandwagons.

Anyone with a brain could see through Damian back then. Just a rebellious teen doing the whole goth thing for fuck's sake..

The worst part is the true killer (one of the dads) got away with it. Those poor little boys. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

 

inst it amazing tho (I'm sure you just as I did, just as everyone I've ever known did) was sure the father of one of the boys, that crazy ass dude, was the murderer? For two documentaries, for years in between them I was sure it was him.. then all of the sudden they introduce this new suspect that third doc that had pretty much completely left out, that was never really investigated and its like 10 seconds of his interview your like HOLY SHIT THAT FUCKER DID IT WHOAH! so much so even the dad was like IT WASN'T THESE KIDS, IT WAS THIS GUY!... that just really stuck with me how you can see so much evidence, be so convinced about something, and so quickly can be proved wrong, whoah!!!

another thing I thought was suuuuuper interesting was in part 2, there is a new crime scene investigator looking at the evidence for the documentary and he is just like, left and right throwing out all these amazing statements about the evidence that you're like HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS AMAZING! he knows EVERYTHING about this scene, how could they still be in jail?! with this guy knowing so much amazing shit!?!! he is SO SMART!!... but then then again, in the 3rd documentary, they bring out an even better attorney that is like, "uh those are not knife marks, they are from a coyote and they generally eat the groin because of the soft flesh etc etc and its like EVERYTHING the guy in part two said, (who seemed so smart and correct when reviewing all the evidence) gets completely dashed apart by this even better attorney.

It just really showed me in that doc how you can believe something, you can think it makes so much sense, you can even see it in court TWICE and have many people insist that X means Y and you'll believe it, but you can STILL be wrong.

There was so much I thought was so right, so much that everyone Ive known thought was right about that case that was just ripped apart by the amazing attorney hired in part three, that it just really is eye opening that its just damn hard to tell what the fuck actually really happened in any situation like that.

I dont think I could be a juror cus id just be like, INNOCENT! HES INNOCENT IDK WTF IDK HOW WE CAN THINK WERE RIGHT. I CANT SEND SOMEONE TO JAIL FOR SOMETHING IDK. INNOCENT.

So yea id make a terrible juror heh

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

 

Lol, it's possible I need to watch #3 again. Seems like I've forgotten some things. I know they get released eventually but I can't remember a lot of it. They were all really good and totally worth watching again.

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea part 3 is the most mind blowing of them all, so much is just flipped turned upside down.

I cant recommend re watching it enough... and guys I cant recommend watching the entire trilogy enough, do it if you liked MaM!

You two are being too sneaky with your spoiler tags. Pretty sure there's some rulebreaking going on here but I'm too lazy to check

[Shrubwise]

 

I am impressed with the spoiler tag usage. That is all.

The thing which fastinates me about Making a Murderer, particularly, is watching the testimonies and more specifically the body language/tone of people testifying. It's fun to watch someone, the way they move and speak, and think, Oh, you son of a bitch, you are so fucking lying.