jet fuel does melt steel beams

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I voted for bush u tard.

Its a quote from the video fffffffff

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why I've remained skeptical of the official narrative. The amount of logistical planning and liability insurance that goes into bringing down a high rise is staggering. To have a random application of applied force achieve the same results is almost beyond belief, but not entirely.

The official narrative went to shit when Fox News had eye witnesses from the floor that was struck by the plane (who escaped) describe the entire scene and one thing they explicitly stated is that the building began to lurch to one side before they were able to get down to the lower floors.

It was over 20 minutes later, building somehow does not continue to lurch, yet synchronized collapses floor by floor.

Not impossible, sure. But highly unlikely considering the initial eye witnesses had the buildings momentum lurching immediately to one side, it would have not fallen straight down had the cause of this natural momentum continued, which it did not.

No conclusion can be drawn, but being a 9/11 skeptic is healthy and demonstrates a fully functioning brain that is examining all the facts.

[Xaanka]

do u nerds even read?

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol it wont cause the superstructure to rhythmically implode a few synchronized floors at a time.

Talk to the eyewitnesses who escaped the floor that the plane actually crashed into, plenty of survivors interviewed and verified who worked on those floors who escaped and theres no evidence the structure was compromised.

No engineer will agree with synchronized floor collapse either buddy. the building would fall to one side or the other, not fall straight down...

Try again.

Following up on a May 2002 preliminary report by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), a major study will be released in spring 2005 by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), a branch of the U.S. Department of Commerce. NIST shared its initial findings with PM and made its lead researcher available to our team of reporters.

The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning jet fuel—and fiery destruction throughout the building. "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert, "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off."

Burning fuel traveling down the elevator shafts would have disrupted the elevator systems and caused extensive damage to the lobbies. NIST heard first-person testimony that "some elevators slammed right down" to the ground floor. "The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser. A similar observation was made in the French documentary "9/11," by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film.

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're absolutely right.

but the demo charges certainly helped bring the towers down. They were placed in the building when the 'elevators needed maintenance' and there was a crew of 'technicians' there just a few months prior FOR 6 MONTHS.

Also, tower 7. Lets not forget tower 7. It magically fell while everyone was looking up. Didn't even catch shrapnel from the other ones.

Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom—approximately 10 stories—about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.

According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."

There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.

Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."

WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors—along with the building's unusual construction—were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.

[iruinedyourday]

uh I was inside the two towers when they fell.. It was xorgalix that had a contract with the bush family and if you re arange the letters in the world xorgalixbush it spells two towers was a scam in xorgalixian so duh

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

do u nerds even read?

lol this is just as bad as conspiracy theorycrafting...

Fact is eye witnesses in the real world on the floor that was struck had the building lurching to one side 3-5 minutes after contact...they said the lurching was marked, not just a little tilt, and it was scary. They used the word "entire building", meaning not just a floor was tilted, the entire superstructure was leaning like the french tower.

Building did not continue its lurching momentum, building did not fall to one side or the other a half hour later. This is going to raise some eyebrows, and no theorycrafting physics will be able to stop them from being raised.

Real world physics debunks much of the theorycrafting you posted. No rocket analysis necessary. "Objects in motion tend to stay in motion". Force on one side should progress and continue.

There should have been collateral damage from the lurching tilt if it was a natural fall. The only explanation is the superstructure was compromised, and flames in an elevator aren't gonna cut it pal theres not enough fuel in the world to fill up the entire building shaft with...also, how about explaining why the tilt didn't progress/continue?

Melt myth busted.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's the thing about conspiracy theories, they typically don't stand up to even the most basic levels of scrutiny. cum

reminds me of Deflategate

on one side you have every person on earth who understood 10th grade physics

then on the other you have failed abortions

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on one side you have every person on earth who understood 10th grade physics

When doing my physics analysis I prefer to consider the word of eye witnesses who have been vetted by a major news network and can vividly and accurately describe the physics phenomenon happening right underneath their feet in detail.

Not some report by some guy in an armchair who ran some numbers with his theorycrafting buddies at some University. WHO WASN'T EVEN THERE.

[Pokesan]

January 18, 2015

The day every man in Boston became a physicist.

[Pokesan]

like are you actually retarded enough to nitpick about the ideal gas law when there's texts of the guy calling himself 'THE DEFLATOR'

massachusetts delenda est

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

like are you actually retarded enough to nitpick about the ideal gas law when there's texts of the guy calling himself 'THE DEFLATOR'

massachusetts delenda est

just so weird how 10/12 balls were "under inflated" by an amount exactly explained by a universally agreed upon law.

MAN

just so weird