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[Erati]

so long as Ring War is triggered no more than once per week then this has no affect on the total Dains the server should b seeing as "buggy" Dain is the real guy aka affects spawn time.

only do 1 Ring War per week til fixed n its like theres no bug - just 2 Hr spawn time for Dain instead of 16 Hr variance

[Mead]

It seems like there are people legitimately looking to resolve this issue. It sounds like the leaders of each guild just need to get together on your own and figure it out like adults. The question is do people actually want to and aren't just pretending to want to find a resolution on the forums in order to snipe some Dains to fulfill pixel lust.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so long as Ring War is triggered no more than once per week then this has no affect on the total Dains the server should b seeing as "buggy" Dain is the real guy aka affects spawn time.

only do 1 Ring War per week til fixed n its like theres no bug - just 2 Hr spawn time for Dain instead of 16 Hr variance

I like that resolution, as opposed to the collusion to exploit a buggy ring war for the purpose of extra dains

[Culkasi]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like that resolution, as opposed to the collusion to exploit a buggy ring war for the purpose of extra dains

What time then? Who gets to attempt the ring war? Again, we are trying to take advantage of an exploit, because pixels > all. Lets not fall into that trap.

[Daldaen]

Again.

Guild triggering war cannot engage exploit Dain. Then we have no issues.

No guilds on this server are willing to give free mobs to their competition. They won't trigger wars unless they think they have real shots on it. No guilds have real shots unless they ally up in its current state.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please don't twist my views. My thoughts are that since the ring war is fundamentally unwinnable (and that means unwinnable by everyone, not just BDA) that guilds shouldn't be triggering ring wars period until the encounter is properly tuned.

The ring war seems pretty consistent to what I recall from live. The last wave problem that I see is that you have to damage the mobs to around 96% and stay in mellee range to stop them from running. On live you didn't have to damage them that low. You did have to damage them and stay in mellee range though. There are ways to control that if you are making sure every mob gets slowed though. Plenty of Monk and Warriors have been at these attempts.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No guilds on this server are willing to give free mobs to their competition. They won't trigger wars unless they think they have real shots on it.

Legitimate shots are being taken, despite what the BDA spin machine spews. Nobody is going to give a dain away for free regardless how it spawns.

[Swish]

im amazed people still apply

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im amazed people still apply

With all the bullshit that you spew, you're our best recruiter.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ring war seems pretty consistent to what I recall from live. The last wave problem that I see is that you have to damage the mobs to around 96% and stay in mellee range to stop them from running. On live you didn't have to damage them that low. You did have to damage them and stay in mellee range though. There are ways to control that if you are making sure every mob gets slowed though. Plenty of Monk and Warriors have been at these attempts.

That's not even the worst part of it. Check my logs I posted - the giant's AC in all waves is higher than Avatar of War. My 50 damage 2-hander was hitting for mid 100s max in a 5 min parse - it normally tops out at about 310 with max strength. Thus is requires an abormal amount of players to kill the final wave before it can reach Thurgadin - and since they don't stop due to aggro or melee range (and resist root/snare) it's been a failure every attempt. Maybe if you got 150 people there you could win it but the event already puts a lot of strain on the zone so I'd imagine that would result in desynchs.