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Old 12-10-2015, 06:36 PM
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Voluntary euthanasia already exists. Setting up a government agency to do it is completely insane.
Would you support a program of euthanasia as long as it was in the private sector?
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:37 PM
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Suggesting you should have total personal freedom over nonsentient cells growing in your body is flirting with a totalitarian ideology! In the name of not being totalitarian, I suggest we employ vast numbers of police to ensure such freedoms are never practiced.
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:37 PM
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I'm a pro-lifer. Ask yourself if you wanted to be aborted before you were born.
what do you think a fetus would say if you asked it that question
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:38 PM
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not suicidal, but i am a firm believer of, if you dont want to live anymore who has the right to stop you from killing your self.
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:39 PM
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Would you support a program of euthanasia as long as it was in the private sector?
Nope.

I would support the right for people who are physically unable to end themselves due to health issues giving legal authority to a loved one, NONCOMMERCIALLY, to kill them. With extensive very rigorous documentation of the giving of consent and the medical issue that prevents the person from pulling the trigger of a gun. That's about as far as I would go.

If you're able-bodied, do it yourself.
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:39 PM
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morality can only be derived from a divine source making it a pointless thing to worry about
I've always viewed morals as cultural constructs, not necessarily rooted in the divine and often the product of contemporary pragmatism of the times and places in which they originated.
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:41 PM
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also knock it off with the eugenics accusations - I'm pretty sure lune was calling all fetuses retarded
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:42 PM
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My question wasn't concerning "shades of gray." If your goal is to "help prevent further population in an already overpopulated world," then why not fully support a view of eugenics? You're already willing to kill a "retarded fetus" and you suggest sterilization of those you do not want to reproduce. You're just a step away from euthanizing those elderly who can no longer function is society and the disabled who can't contribute to the greater good.
You can't just assume that some of my beliefs will lead to others, that's known as a slippery slope fallacy.

How about you counter the reasoning of my stance if you disagree with it, rather than trying to label me a Nazi?

And for the record, I am a fascist, not a Nazi, do support reproduction being a privilege, not a right, and do not support killing the disabled, or killing anyone besides a fetus, for that matter.
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Nope.

I would support the right for people who are physically unable to end themselves due to health issues giving legal authority to a loved one, NONCOMMERCIALLY, to kill them. With extensive very rigorous documentation of the giving of consent and the medical issue that prevents the person from pulling the trigger of a gun. That's about as far as I would go.

If you're able-bodied, do it yourself.
Alright. You seem to be supporting home-grown euthanasia. Take grandma upstairs, family says good-bye, and then they take her life. All with her consent, though, so that makes it morally good. Uh, huh.
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:44 PM
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I'm a pro-lifer. Ask yourself if you wanted to be aborted before you were born. Everyone should have a chance out in the world.
if my mom was 14 years old and a drug addict and Id be born with my eyes too far apart, yes.

gimi a break. You aint that dumb swish. U just trying to fucking nice guy your way into sidelle's digital panties. not gonna happen.

my mother was a fucking saint fuck you for insinuating she would have aborted me, she and my father worked for 6 years at having thier first child.
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