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Old 12-10-2015, 05:51 PM
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Of course I do. I am just differentiating between abortion and abstinence while trying to better understand IRYD's position. He referred to it as killing babies earlier, which I tend to agree with.

Are You suggesting an 8mo human fetus is the same as cattle?

The interesting thing about that analogy is that the cattle are consumed. Their death is has purpose. They are in fact created for that purpose. The same dignity is not afforded the fetus. It was created by mistake and the penalty for that mistake is a meaningless death.
The same dignity of being bred into meat slavery in a stifling shit-drenched pen is not afforded for the fetus. poor fetus
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Old 12-10-2015, 05:53 PM
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Of course I do. I am just differentiating between abortion and abstinence while trying to better understand IRYD's position. He referred to it as killing babies earlier, which I tend to agree with.

Are You suggesting an 8mo human fetus is the same as cattle?

The interesting thing about that analogy is that the cattle are consumed. Their death is has purpose. They are in fact created for that purpose. The same dignity is not afforded the fetus. It was created by mistake and the penalty for that mistake is a meaningless death.
The ridiculous overpopulation of the human race and the extent to which we are destroying the planet is justification enough to kill an unwanted fetus before it can become another fully grown human bacteria. Far from a meaningless death.

There's not enough room on this Earth for 7.3 billion humans, much less unwanted humans born into poverty to shitty parents too stupid to use contraception properly.
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The same dignity of being bred into meat slavery in a stifling shit-drenched pen is not afforded for the fetus. poor fetus
Dignity of purpose, friend.
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Dignity of purpose, friend.
By that line of thought wouldn't it be an even greater shame to birth a child with no purpose and no family to drain resources from the state, get hooked on drugs and live as a child prostitute? You sound like you're advocating abortion.

ive got it, we can eat aborted fetuses. then they are aborted for a purpose and acquire dignity, and they get to explore the world after we poop them into the ocean.
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Old 12-10-2015, 05:58 PM
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at what stage is a fetus more sentient than an adult cow
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The ridiculous overpopulation of the human race and the extent to which we are destroying the planet is justification enough to kill an unwanted fetus before it can become another fully grown human bacteria. Far from a meaningless death.

There's not enough room on this Earth for 7.3 billion humans, much less unwanted humans born into poverty to shitty parents too stupid to use contraception properly.
Why stop at fetuses?
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:00 PM
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By that line of thought wouldn't it be an even greater shame to birth a child with no purpose and no family to drain resources from the state, get hooked on drugs and live as a child prostitute? You sound like you're advocating abortion.

ive got it, we can eat aborted fetuses. then they are aborted for a purpose and acquire dignity, and they get to explore the world after we poop them into the ocean.
Scroll back a few pages, I've already stated my position on abortion which aligns with the same reason you and Lune followed to your conclusions. I am just not afraid of exploring the possibility that while reasoned it may be in part morally wrong, cruel or unjust.
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at what stage is a fetus more sentient than an adult cow
At what point did you become more sentient than an adult cow?
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