How to Trust a moderate Muslim?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is only a very recent development, with modern evangelicals finding a loophole to further adapt Christianity to an extremely secular culture (compared to how things used to be). Now you don't even need to read or understand the bible and find a uniform conclusion if you don't want to, just love Christ! Is there an icky part of the bible? Who cares! It's all about your love for Christ! And I doubt Catholics would appreciate being characterized as not following Christ's teachings, considering the accounts of Paul, Peter, disciples etc are believed to also be true accounts of what Christ wanted.

Which loophole are you referring to? The books that I referenced comprise the new testament, all of which was written by Christ's apostles. Read it, any of it. It does not contain the same violence of the Talmund (Old Testament) or the Qur'an. It just doesn't. Christ was a pacifist.

The text is vitally more important than the people, because any organization/ideology is susceptible to adverse selection and exploitation, but the question of whether or not the text specifically allows for or encourages a behavior determines the degree to which exploitation is likely.

For Christians it took 1500+ years of extrapolation 300-400 of education and development to allow most Christians to focus on the text of their namesake and minimize (though not eliminate as seen in televangelists, catholic priests, etc.) exploitation.

The question at hand is can, Islam reach that point? The text suggests not.

For peace, Christ took a step forward for Jews. Mohamed took 3 backwards.