Official Donald TRUMP debunking thread

[Stasis01]

It's not bad or unrealistic, it's like step one where all other steps are pointless without it.

The guy who killed that kid was deported 5 times. I doubt that fucker was working.

[Dillian]

pick up your toy plastic guns retard.

[Pokesan]

Walls work in Minecraft though Lune. Check and mate.

[James_Joyce]

If illegal immigrants are still making it in then the penalties simply aren't stiff enough. You'll never hit 100% deterrence but you can hit 90%+ with some very simple steps. Literally the entire argument that the border simply cannot be defended is based around a paradigm where nobody has the will to do what must be done because the solutions sound too bad. By shifting the Overton window and allowing discussion of what must be done, this is what a TRUMP presidency proposes to fix.

Big wall; live ammunition for border patrol; hellfire drones for unauthorized vehicles; third criminal deportation is to a burial at sea in international waters. If that doesn't deter enough, make it the first deportation. Managers found guilty of aiding and abetting treason and sedition against the United States of America by providing unauthorized inhabitants of the US with material support tried accordingly. The only people who will be destroyed are those enemies who seek themselves to destroy the United States of America. Utilization of the very simple and effective solutions available to us is in reach if we can elect somebody willing and able to throw off the shackles of political correctness and discard the pathological altruism that has allowed the world into its unbalanced current state, before that imbalance grows so strong that entire races and great masses of millions must be liquidated in a 20th Century-style cataclysm for Western civilization to survive.

Would you let your own softness force your descendents into a position where they must murder entire categories of unassimilated inhabitants of their continent to stand a chance at survival? By allowing immigration to outstrip our capacity to assimilate, you would damn your own children to choose between destruction and whatever Hell is reserved for genocidists.

All Lune is really saying ITT is that it's unlikely one man could muster the political will to make happen what must happen to save the Republic, and perhaps that is so. Does it excuse us from trying?

What Lord TRUMP spells out is nothing compared to what he is implying at every turn. He sees what is going on better than any of us. What he promises is not less than what he says, as with most candidates: it is more. See 4th poll option.

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Build the "wall", whatever it must be made of -- concrete, steel, armed Predator drones, or punitive lethal injection chambers. Ship them back, perhaps even in small urns for those who fail to report themselves to INS if it saves enough expense for Americans, and save your crocodile tears for these criminals and enemies of civilization, these cowards who have abandoned their own nation and people to depredation and humiliation and eternal dependency on the guiding hand of great nations such as ours for stability.

Stop anchor babies without eroding our constitutional protection of citizenship as a birthright by sterilizing unauthorized immigrants immediately upon detection. Anchor babies who slip through the cracks can be raised and assimilated by the State. Stop forcing American citizens to remove their shoes and prostrate themselves before a naked body scanner to enter a plane, and instead stop allowing categories of people who are high-risk for American citizens to enter our aircraft and our nation, or gain citizenship in the first place. American citizenship should be an extremely valuable commodity and provide a highly privileged existence. Looking forward to all the self-hating "world citizens" on this board shitting themselves in protest that a people should aim to elevate itself.

Oh and by the way, before you chimpanzees start shrieking about racism consider that there are many, many American citizens of all races and creeds. I would never dream of taking liberty from an American of any shade; only giving. I dream of raising up men and women of all races and colors. This includes those "anchor babies" who we are not able to prevent from being born here, who are protected by our Constitution. It is not the fault of such a child that our own weakness or incompetency at defending our borders allowed them to be birthed in the US, and we are obligated to accept them as citizens. They should enjoy all of the privileges of an American. Their families, though? Definitely not.

By my reckoning the TRUMP remains unstumped. Please try again.

[Pokesan]

I think I just 'got' Big Japan

I may have taken and ambien and forgotten about it. Better go to bed.

#RideTheWalrus

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. Trump only wants to build a wall along a small part of the border, claiming that the Rio Grande and barren desert are a natural wall for the rest of the expanse. (This is laughable)

If your business model relies on illegal slave-like labor, you should not be in business.

I can say how laughable claiming the Rio Grande is a barrier is, I have seen it with my own eyes my family has a ranch directly on the border as far south as you can get, and the river is barely above-ground and extremely narrow in certain areas. You can nearly walk across some parts. These areas where the river is underground have a lot of cliffs, but they looked like you could scale them. I joked once that the main house will fall into the Rio some day, as its sitting on one of these cliffs immediately above the Rio.

Border patrol forces private property to maintain and develop fences, under threat of being sued by the Fed. If border patrol chased someone through the fence (they regularly ram their cars through as part of the job), they would call to say there is a hole in the fence, "fix it bitch". click. Its like yeah thanks for creating a criminal and civil liability for us. Don't know the legal obligation, just know its not worth arguing over and its expected that you maintain a shitty 8 foot chain link fence in some areas.

And yeah they shouldn't be in business. Illegal labor forces working class citizens to accept lower wages.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by James_Joyce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If illegal immigrants are still making it in then the penalties simply aren't stiff enough. You'll never hit 100% deterrence but you can hit 90%+ with some very simple steps. Literally the entire argument that the border simply cannot be defended is based around a paradigm where nobody has the will to do what must be done because the solutions sound too bad. By shifting the Overton window and allowing discussion of what must be done, this is what a TRUMP presidency proposes to fix.

Big wall; live ammunition for border patrol; hellfire drones for unauthorized vehicles; third criminal deportation is to a burial at sea in international waters. If that doesn't deter enough, make it the first deportation. Managers found guilty of aiding and abetting treason and sedition against the United States of America by providing unauthorized inhabitants of the US with material support tried accordingly. The only people who will be destroyed are those enemies who seek themselves to destroy the United States of America. Utilization of the very simple and effective solutions available to us is in reach if we can elect somebody willing and able to throw off the shackles of political correctness and discard the pathological altruism that has allowed the world into its unbalanced current state, before that imbalance grows so strong that entire races and great masses of millions must be liquidated in a 20th Century-style cataclysm for Western civilization to survive.

Would you let your own softness force your descendents into a position where they must murder entire categories of unassimilated inhabitants of their continent to stand a chance at survival? By allowing immigration to outstrip our capacity to assimilate, you would damn your own children to choose between destruction and whatever Hell is reserved for genocidists.

All Lune is really saying ITT is that it's unlikely one man could muster the political will to make happen what must happen to save the Republic, and perhaps that is so. Does it excuse us from trying?

What Lord TRUMP spells out is nothing compared to what he is implying at every turn. He sees what is going on better than any of us. What he promises is not less than what he says, as with most candidates: it is more. See 4th poll option.

Build the "wall", whatever it must be made of -- concrete, steel, armed Predator drones, or punitive lethal injection chambers. Ship them back, perhaps even in small urns for those who fail to report themselves to INS if it saves enough expense for Americans, and save your crocodile tears for these criminals and enemies of civilization, these cowards who have abandoned their own nation and people to depredation and humiliation and eternal dependency on the guiding hand of great nations such as ours for stability.

Stop anchor babies without eroding our constitutional protection of citizenship as a birthright by sterilizing unauthorized immigrants immediately upon detection. Anchor babies who slip through the cracks can be raised and assimilated by the State. Stop forcing American citizens to remove their shoes and prostrate themselves before a naked body scanner to enter a plane, and instead stop allowing categories of people who are high-risk for American citizens to enter our aircraft and our nation, or gain citizenship in the first place. American citizenship should be an extremely valuable commodity and provide a highly privileged existence. Looking forward to all the self-hating "world citizens" on this board shitting themselves in protest that a people should aim to elevate itself.

Oh and by the way, before you chimpanzees start shrieking about racism consider that there are many, many American citizens of all races and creeds. I would never dream of taking liberty from an American of any shade; only giving. I dream of raising up men and women of all races and colors. This includes those "anchor babies" who we are not able to prevent from being born here, who are protected by our Constitution. It is not the fault of such a child that our own weakness or incompetency at defending our borders allowed them to be birthed in the US, and we are obligated to accept them as citizens. They should enjoy all of the privileges of an American. Their families, though? Definitely not.

By my reckoning the TRUMP remains unstumped. Please try again.

Oh man I actually agree with some of this. Is this what I sound like when I promote fascist things?

Trump's not gonna legalize massacres on foreign civilians though.

[Pokesan]

what are the pros/cons of jus soli v sanguinis

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I just 'got' Big Japan

I may have taken and ambien and forgotten about it. Better go to bed.

#RideTheWalrus

das it mane

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[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by James_Joyce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If illegal immigrants are still making it in then the penalties simply aren't stiff enough. You'll never hit 100% deterrence but you can hit 90%+ with some very simple steps. Literally the entire argument that the border simply cannot be defended is based around a paradigm where nobody has the will to do what must be done because the solutions sound too bad. By shifting the Overton window and allowing discussion of what must be done, this is what a TRUMP presidency proposes to fix.

Big wall; live ammunition for border patrol; hellfire drones for unauthorized vehicles; third criminal deportation is to a burial at sea in international waters. If that doesn't deter enough, make it the first deportation. Managers found guilty of aiding and abetting treason and sedition against the United States of America by providing unauthorized inhabitants of the US with material support tried accordingly. The only people who will be destroyed are those enemies who seek themselves to destroy the United States of America. Utilization of the very simple and effective solutions available to us is in reach if we can elect somebody willing and able to throw off the shackles of political correctness and discard the pathological altruism that has allowed the world into its unbalanced current state, before that imbalance grows so strong that entire races and great masses of millions must be liquidated in a 20th Century-style cataclysm for Western civilization to survive.

Would you let your own softness force your descendents into a position where they must murder entire categories of unassimilated inhabitants of their continent to stand a chance at survival? By allowing immigration to outstrip our capacity to assimilate, you would damn your own children to choose between destruction and whatever Hell is reserved for genocidists.

All Lune is really saying ITT is that it's unlikely one man could muster the political will to make happen what must happen to save the Republic, and perhaps that is so. Does it excuse us from trying?

What Lord TRUMP spells out is nothing compared to what he is implying at every turn. He sees what is going on better than any of us. What he promises is not less than what he says, as with most candidates: it is more. See 4th poll option.

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Build the "wall", whatever it must be made of -- concrete, steel, armed Predator drones, or punitive lethal injection chambers. Ship them back, perhaps even in small urns for those who fail to report themselves to INS if it saves enough expense for Americans, and save your crocodile tears for these criminals and enemies of civilization, these cowards who have abandoned their own nation and people to depredation and humiliation and eternal dependency on the guiding hand of great nations such as ours for stability.

Stop anchor babies without eroding our constitutional protection of citizenship as a birthright by sterilizing unauthorized immigrants immediately upon detection. Anchor babies who slip through the cracks can be raised and assimilated by the State. Stop forcing American citizens to remove their shoes and prostrate themselves before a naked body scanner to enter a plane, and instead stop allowing categories of people who are high-risk for American citizens to enter our aircraft and our nation, or gain citizenship in the first place. American citizenship should be an extremely valuable commodity and provide a highly privileged existence. Looking forward to all the self-hating "world citizens" on this board shitting themselves in protest that a people should aim to elevate itself.

Oh and by the way, before you chimpanzees start shrieking about racism consider that there are many, many American citizens of all races and creeds. I would never dream of taking liberty from an American of any shade; only giving. I dream of raising up men and women of all races and colors. This includes those "anchor babies" who we are not able to prevent from being born here, who are protected by our Constitution. It is not the fault of such a child that our own weakness or incompetency at defending our borders allowed them to be birthed in the US, and we are obligated to accept them as citizens. They should enjoy all of the privileges of an American. Their families, though? Definitely not.

By my reckoning the TRUMP remains unstumped. Please try again.

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