Ninja looting

[Jeni]

Praise Llandris, this one was big in ooc this morning glad it was looked into.

[JboxCSU]

Originally Posted by Jeni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Praise Llandris, this one was big in ooc this morning glad it was looked into.

F'in A Cotton.

F'in AAAAAAA

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my scenario, there's no way to prevent it. Pvp can't solve the issue. Like others have stated, each case is reviewed differently, depending on the circumstances.

right, i agree completely

that's just the stance i've most commonly seen from sirken

the last time i inquired about a potential ninja loot at a raid within guild a few months ago (basically same scenario you're describing), his response was "manage your guild better" and then moved the petition to resolved

[Jjlent]

I understand why he would say that about a guild getting a mob ninja looted by a guild member, this scenario seems a bit different since it was a pick up group. In your scenario you have a position of power over the ninja looted being their guildleader, in a pick up group no one is in authority

[Colgate]

it's the same concept in both scenarios where pvp can't prevent it from happening

what you can do afterward is irrelevant, be it kicking them from the group or kicking them from the guild

[krazyGlue]

who ninja looted what ? at the raid?

[Colgate]

someone claimed to be selling a ring of lightning a month into velious, so i asked for encounter logs for the 4 or 5 king tormax kills to see if anyone had looted one without saying anything or didn't give it to the person who was awarded it

he refused and moved it to resolved and told me to manage the guild better

in any case, his stance before has been "if pvp can solve it, GMs don't care"

which also doesn't really make sense, considering training is against the rules

[Jjlent]

True what you do afterwards doesn't matter, but sirken's response could be different towards ur petition because u have a position of power over said ninja looter. Sirken's response to u was like; ur friend stole from u, choose ur friends more wisely. Sirken's response to this scenario *could* be like; u were robbed by a random person after he knew he lost a random but didn't want to give up item, I will take that item and give to whoever won roll

I have no idea what his response will be and wasn't in group, just saw the ooc aftermath and know someone present at the event. I haven't played on p99 for 3 years until past few month so not sure what sort of precedence has been set, just an outsiders perspective

[hammbone]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

someone claimed to be selling a ring of lightning a month into velious, so i asked for encounter logs for the 4 or 5 king tormax kills to see if anyone had looted one without saying anything or didn't give it to the person who was awarded it

he refused and moved it to resolved and told me to manage the guild better

in any case, his stance before has been "if pvp can solve it, GMs don't care"

which also doesn't really make sense, considering training is against the rules

Totally get where you're coming from, you're making great points, but you're asking a GM to spend time researching server logs for you? Thought for training you had to provide proof, e.g. FRAPS.

Also, I'd like to think at least one member of Empire, given its notable white knights, would have said something.

[Star]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

someone claimed to be selling a ring of lightning a month into velious, so i asked for encounter logs for the 4 or 5 king tormax kills to see if anyone had looted one without saying anything or didn't give it to the person who was awarded it

he refused and moved it to resolved and told me to manage the guild better

in any case, his stance before has been "if pvp can solve it, GMs don't care"

which also doesn't really make sense, considering training is against the rules

Just threw up in my mouth reading that.