Discussion on 20 minute engage rule for undead bard (trak guts) when next patch comes

[Ele]

Another thing is that each epic quest seems to have been designed by different devs or groups with not much coordination between them as evidenced by the huge disparity in difficultly and rarity of component items. i.e. Rogue/Monk/Shaman v. Mage/Warrior/Bard. Others having insanely rare drops e.g. Cazic Skin for Wiz epic. There were only a handful across all servers when Velious dropped and then just a few months until Broken Golem fix was added.

Cleric epic is relatively straight forward and "easy," but Verant did not "fix" the Ragefire situation for over 1.5 years despite the very vocal outcry by clerics and guilds. If you can even call the Skyfire shards/Ragefire a fix.

Not many people recall, but rogues were much rarer on live than they are here. Rogues were one of the worst classes without decent weapon itemization or even evade for a large part of classic, that is until Kunark and Velious came along. People didn't have 4+ years to twink a rogue and foreknowledge that easy 15 damage epics were coming.

[krazyGlue]

We don't have this shit show on red

[Ele]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We don't have this shit show on red

When everyone is in the same guild and farms the crap out of Kunark for 5 years, I wouldn't see why you guys would have that problem.

[Oleris]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another thing is that each epic quest seems to have been designed by different devs or groups with not much coordination between them as evidenced by the huge disparity in difficultly and rarity of component items. i.e. Rogue/Monk/Shaman v. Mage/Warrior/Bard. Others having insanely rare drops e.g. Cazic Skin for Wiz epic. There were only a handful across all servers when Velious dropped and then just a few months until Broken Golem fix was added.

Cleric epic is relatively straight forward and "easy," but Verant did not "fix" the Ragefire situation for over 1.5 years despite the very vocal outcry by clerics and guilds. If you can even call the Skyfire shards/Ragefire a fix.

Not many people recall, but rogues were much rarer on live than they are here. Rogues were one of the worst classes without decent weapon itemization or even evade for a large part of classic, that is until Kunark and Velious came along. People didn't have 4+ years to twink a rogue and foreknowledge that easy 15 damage epics were coming.

2 months ago on the eq live twitch stream they were talking about designing the epic quests. It was split into 4-5 different people with distinct guidelines for the quests. 3 of which were there talking about the new expansion. Might want to check it out if ya want to learn more about the quests.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Oleris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 months ago on the eq live twitch stream they were talking about designing the epic quests. It was split into 4-5 different people with distinct guidelines for the quests. 3 of which were there talking about the new expansion. Might want to check it out if ya want to learn more about the quests.

Cool, will have to check that out.

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure. Bards were quite vocal about the lack of access to white dragon scales. Considering most either had to stay sub 53 for Vox, lead but not participate in a pick-up Vox raid or go all the way to 57+ to be able to stand up against Gorenaire.

This Concert Hall poster had a decent rant about it here. Also here, here, and lots of people traded for it. People started coming up with theories like this one or this one that there was an unsolved quest or unfound NPC that would provide the white scale, but none were found (whether that was on purpose or a mistake by Verant who knows).

Hoshkar starts dropping green scales in about 3 months (June 2001). So warriors do get a boost in that department.

Thott had this to say:

Ahh Thott...

Ever the man of the people. It's no wonder he abandoned Everquest for WoW where literally every item in the game has a required level on it.

If anyone manages to track down the Twitch, I'd love to watch it. Everquestlive doesn't seem to post any of the old streams.

[Oleris]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ahh Thott...

Ever the man of the people. It's no wonder he abandoned Everquest for WoW where literally every item in the game has a required level on it.

If anyone manages to track down the Twitch, I'd love to watch it. Everquestlive doesn't seem to post any of the old streams.

https://youtu.be/gGKIvEgOyaI

somewhere in there when asked about if there will be any new epic quests.

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by Oleris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/gGKIvEgOyaI

somewhere in there when asked about if there will be any new epic quests.

Ahh thanks. I actually skipped around in that video listening to epics and missed it. I'll check again.

[maestrom]

It looks like there's a Q&A after their little presentations that has been cut off.

I didn't hear anything about designing epic quests in that video.

bummer.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it has been a few weeks now.

What has the situation been so far?