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Old 10-20-2015, 05:40 PM
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Old 10-20-2015, 05:43 PM
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Go to IBM and tell them you want to "program" for them with ASM, and that is your only expertise with a "language". Watch the horrific cringe and no followup interview.

Thank you for reinforcing and agreeing with me that ASM is absolutely not a programming lanugage in any way shape or form.

And good job doubling down on your off-topic derail.
I've had job offers at IBM. I turned them down because I have a job already.

Of course it's not a programming language. It's an instruction set type. 'asm' is short for x86/x64 assembler due to the keyword in C.

It's not a programming language, but that doesn't mean it's unreadable. If it was unreadable then EQEmulator wouldn't be a thing and your programs wouldn't run.

Please look how object files are generated; you might learn a thing or two.

And to those calling a ".dll" different than an ".exe", the only difference is their PE header flags that specify how the module should be loaded. You could manual map a binary file and have it loaded as an fyi.

See: http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/4306...ut-LoadLibrary
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Old 10-20-2015, 05:49 PM
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I suppose it could. It would need to index and checksum every DLL on the computer... is that why it's so damn slow? I haven't read much about AVs.
That's a good question. I would figure that it would index the file when it's created in the system, i.e. at installation. Then it would not have to index the entire system at one time? It might use pre-existing indexes. If this were the case, then a block of indexes would be created at the same time when a program is installed. Maybe it just checks the dll files against the other files in the installation path? If an individual dll file or multiple files were altered by a third party, then they would have different modification dates. On the other hand, if an official patch were released, it might modify the entire set of dlls associated with the program.
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Old 10-20-2015, 05:59 PM
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I've had job offers at IBM. I turned them down because I have a job already.

Of course it's not a programming language. It's an instruction set type. 'asm' is short for x86/x64 assembler due to the keyword in C.

It's not a programming language, but that doesn't mean it's unreadable. If it was unreadable then EQEmulator wouldn't be a thing and your programs wouldn't run.

Please look how object files are generated; you might learn a thing or two.

And to those calling a ".dll" different than an ".exe", the only difference is their PE header flags that specify how the module should be loaded. You could manual map a binary file and have it loaded as an fyi.

See: http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/4306...ut-LoadLibrary
Yes! Thank you Secrets, I am forever in your debt. These nerds had me up against the ropes for a minute.

And about the "decompiling" or what not of a .dll, I get it. Its just unreasonable to assume anyone will spend the hours or has the ASM neckbeard to make sense of it. RedGuides has no idea what they were talking is something everyone can agree on I think.

Champion_standing and Bruno, go eat dirt.

simp403, go pound sand.

Alaron01, ask and you shall be forgiven.
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Old 10-20-2015, 06:09 PM
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Not that I really care, but... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-le...mming_language

... Does it really matter what you call it if you know what it does? ...

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Old 10-20-2015, 06:12 PM
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All 3 of you are virgins.
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Old 10-20-2015, 06:17 PM
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Yes! Thank you Secrets, I am forever in your debt. These nerds had me up against the ropes for a minute.
Lol, he's wrong, though. An assembly language is a low-level programming language such as ARM or x86. An instruction set type would be CISC or RISC, not x86. I can see that you're desperate to find an exit from this conversation, though.
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Old 10-20-2015, 06:18 PM
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Not that I really care, but... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-le...mming_language

... Does it really matter what you call it if you know what it does? ...

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Lets just agree there is programming language, and then there is programming language.

In colloquial speak, I'm not comfortable with ASM being given the title "programming language". I have to stop there this could go on for several pages if Secrets somehow gets baited into this semantic/misnomer war. The joke I cracked earlier pretty much summed it up about machine code being a "programming language" too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 10-20-2015, 06:31 PM
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One thing is 100% clear.

All 3 of you are virgins.
We all play on an emulation server for a 16-year-old MMO. That probably should have been your first hint.
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:02 PM
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lol



I posted reading materials that clearly back up what I was saying and you accuse me of not reading?



What does that even mean?



I'm trying, but you're too cute.

Here let me spell it out for you: They actually don't back you up. In fact the second link goes directly against what you said. Therefore, you can't fucking read.
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