Bernie Sanders at his best

[Era'viss]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because you want to run a business doesn't mean you should necessarily be successful in it. Business is competitive.

Totally agree, but I think you're missing the point of what I was trying to say. That or I sucked at explaining why I don't like raises in the minimum wage. I get what the goal is supposed to be, but it creates a pretty large barrier to entry for new small companies. Especially small companies that require other large investments upfront.

Maybe I shouldn't have tried to use an anecdote... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are 3 everquesters that are really rustled about sanders and they are also conspiracy theroist spammers.

Yikes

Were just the vocalized ones. At least 60% of the people i meet in game agree with me on quite a few things.
And do you know why were rustled about sanders? The same reason at least I was rustled about Obama when he first came about. theyre liars, thieves, and obama at the very least is genocidal. They speak and their tongue turns black.

[quido]

The cost of a few more failed businesses is worth it when we consider the gains made by requiring companies to give people decent wages.

[Era'viss]

Originally Posted by Ranndom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were just the vocalized ones. At least 60% of the people i meet in game agree with me on quite a few things.

Bird of a feather all flock together.

Originally Posted by Ranndom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

theyre liars, thieves, and obama at the very least is genocidal. They speak and their tongue turns black.

Welcome to politics... but can you explain this genocide accusation? Are you thinking he's "DECLARED WAR ON [Insert Label]," and you're hyperbolizing a situation just like a news headline?

[quido]

I thought conservopublicans were in favor of murdering people when it's good for business?

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by Era'viss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bird of a feather all flock together.

Not really. Just because we agree doesnt mean we like each other or how were gonna get there

[Patriam1066]

Minimum wage increases....

Don't work. It really is that simple. Businesses will just automate jobs or fire people. I get that you don't mind businesses failing, but the goal was to raise wages. If the successful ones automate and the losing enterprises fail entirely, who exactly had a wage increase?

The corporations are the enemy gentlemen. Not the mom and pop shop on your corner employing 15 year olds as cashiers and stock boys ....

Jesus Christ let Bernie sanders talk, you're starting to sound like Hugo Chavez

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Minimum wage increases....

Don't work. It really is that simple. Businesses will just automate jobs or fire people. I get that you don't mind businesses failing, but the goal was to raise wages. If the successful ones automate and the losing enterprises fail entirely, who exactly had a wage increase?

The corporations are the enemy gentlemen. Not the mom and pop shop on your corner employing 15 year olds as cashiers and stock boys ....

Jesus Christ let Bernie sanders talk, you're starting to sound like Hugo Chavez

Seattle tried 15 minimum. People in mass began begging for less hours or simply stopped working because they were making too much to recieve welfare payments.
Walmart tried bumping minimum, They cut hours en mass, forced people to take hour lunches, and who knows what else.
So yea, its not the wage its the dollar....And the people.
However, Walmart is what someone like bernie becomes with power. Socialism is a baad answer

[Era'viss]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The cost of a few more failed businesses is worth it when we consider the gains made by requiring companies to give people decent wages.

This feels as callous as a top executive rationalizing why his employees should be paid $15,080 a year at full time 40 hours a week.

I'll go out on a loose branch to say what I think would be a more ideal solution. Have the government redistribute the wealth to help level annual earnings. Large companies still paying about $15k a year for someone? Have that individual get another check from the fed helping them reach the median income for their area.

I'd also like to see people give more of a fuck about each other. That's something that no politician can really do, but it sucks how hateful people can be towards each other. Especially to the poor and downtrodden. To me this is more of the root of our problem, and we need to own up to it. I'm a Christian, and there's no way I can associate myself with the Republican party because of how awful they depict and treat the poor.

Biggest offense to me lately was when Mexico had all those unaccompanied minor flow into the U.S. You would have thought they weren't even human with how the Republican's were depicting those people. I thought it was an awesome opportunity the U.S. had to be a good guy and help some kids out, but noooo way. There's been other bullshit that they've done since then, but damn that was a black-eye for the Republican party in my eyes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Aviann]

All of you should listen to Jeremy.