Dem Debates

[ronasch]

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There's 2 kinds of people in this world. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by sOurDieSel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes or at least tell them to kick rocks and throw them off the stage.

Would he have let a bunch of White Tea Party members do that with no repercussions? Don't think so...double standards much.

Just shows the dude is spineless either way. Headline is right them BT-1000s put on strap ons and bent Bernie over the podium just like Putin, China and the rest of the world would do while Bernie is cowering in the corner trying to fight the biggest threat to National Security.... CLIMATE CHANGE. rofl

But dude, climate change may make the earth uninhabitable for your children!
-Bernie Sanders and iruinedyourday, PhD in climatology

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bold part at the end is what's important. Are those countries plagued with people who don't contribute to the system but instead leech off it, sometimes for generations? That's the problem with the US, and it's a cultural problem. They don't want to move away from a welfare existence. It happens in urban cities, in rural trailer parks, in our deserts etc. Too many people just don't give a shit.

Bernie wants to model the US after the nordic socialist systems. Well guess what, it won't work here.

I am not saying the gross wealth inequality doesn't contribute. It's plain wrong for .1% of the population to own nearly 90% of the wealth. Oh, and raising the minimum wage to like $15/hr isn't the answer. A massive, radical cultural change is the answer, and I fear we won't see it in our lifetimes.

And the worst part about it all is that if/when we try European style socialism here and it fails miserably due to our demographics, it may cause us to push too far back in the opposite direction. Certainly some kind of safety net is ideal from both a moral and practical sense, but if it's done in the wrong way, people may then throw out the baby with the bath water. Currently the government incentivizes those who are least able to take care of themselves to reproduce as early and often as possible and it discourages marriage for those receiving benefits, leading to more and more children being raised by a single parent. This is not a sustainable pattern for a society and it has to change.

[Pokesan]

are you harping on the climate change thing because you disagree that's its important or because you believe he overstated the immediacy of the danger?

[iruinedyourday]

You guys dont get it. Our country has been raped and pillaged by republicans and corperate greed. You just dont understand the power of marketing. Youre manipulted by what the media tells you about how your neighbors are evil and that america is some kind of unique and special place.

Europian style socialism in america? What does it get? Canada. Better working conditions, quality of life, education, health care.

None of what Bernie says requires a monk like change from the people. It requires exactly the same amount of energy that a buisness like comcast soends when it says.. Hmm yea lets set up data caps because we can do whatever we want and nobody cares. Only instead they say, shit cant price gouge people because we have a strong goverment making sure that the oeople are getting what they deserve.

Simply put, if you dont like Bernie, why do you like Hillary so much? Cus if not him, its her.

[ronasch]

i find it amusing how "Progressives" have hopped onto this global warming scam, when the same people (corporations) who they claim to hate, support it the most. Our biggest threat is climate change lol. A generation of fools.

[ronasch]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys dont get it. Our country has been raped and pillaged by republicans and corperate greed. You just dont understand the power of marketing. Youre manipulted by what the media tells you about how your neighbors are evil and that america is some kind of unique and special place.

Europian style socialism in america? What does it get? Canada. Better working conditions, quality of life, education, health care.

None of what Bernie says requires a monk like change from the people. It requires exactly the same amount of energy that a buisness like comcast soends when it says.. Hmm yea lets set up data caps because we can do whatever we want and nobody cares. Only instead they say, shit cant price gouge people because we have a strong goverment making sure that the oeople are getting what they deserve.

Simply put, if you dont like Bernie, why do you like Hillary so much? Cus if not him, its her.

And the democrats are so generous, they love giving other people's money away. This is in no way defending repubs. But cmon man they're all greedy bastards. We don't have a 2 party system it's all the same party 1 just moves slower toward totalitarianism then the other

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the democrats are so generous, they love giving other people's money away. This is in no way defending repubs. But cmon man they're all greedy bastards. We don't have a 2 party system it's all the same party 1 just moves slower toward totalitarianism then the other

You say alm that. If you belive any if it, DO something about it. Supporting bernie sanders is doing something about it.

[ronasch]

What policy do u specifically like that u believe Bernie will make work? Socialism has never worked and never will, but I am willing to hear them.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What policy do u specifically like that u believe Bernie will make work? Socialism has never worked and never will, but I am willing to hear them.

Democratic Socialism literally works here and elsewhere, it's not our responsibility to teach you what socialism means. Read a book.