Camp list rules?

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[Monty405]

Wheres all the "Consider Red 99" gang at?
Prime target over here.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Monty405 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wheres all the "Consider Red 99" gang at?
Prime target over here.

Not really, there are no official camp rules on red ^^ Unofficially the rule of thumb is if you want to camp something ensure you possess force to defend it ^^

[BulletCatcher]

So what you're saying is Joe Bob shows up; John Smith could hand the camp to Joe even though Harry was next on the list.... Unless Harry has been at the camp the whole time... your saying John is obligated to relinquish the camp to Harry because 1) John said he was on the list, and 2) Harry stayed and patiently waited. Is that what you're saying?

This doesn't seem concrete as far as the rules are concerned (more of a players working things out for themselves sans GM intervention). Couldn't John just say "Hey Harry, i know you've been waiting for a long time, but im gonna hand the camp to Joe Bob because I want to.(even though Harry had been waiting)"

I feel like the current rules would say Joe gets the camp. The player list thing is only a player construct and I would imagine a GM wouldn't get to involved in it to resolve a dispute.

I guess its up to the players to be amicable with one another.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by BulletCatcher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your saying John is obligated to relinquish the camp to Harry because 1) John said he was on the list, and 2) Harry stayed and patiently waited. Is that what you're saying?

exactly. Because Harry was on "the list" and was physically present during the camp's turnover - it is by rule Harry's camp.

If Harry was not physically present, John can hand the camp to whoever he wants.

[Ronnie328]

I've never kept a list. If someone asks, I tell them the approximate time I'm leaving, if no one is sorting at the camp when I leave, I announce my departure and I'm done with it.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Ronnie328 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never kept a list. If someone asks, I tell them the approximate time I'm leaving, if no one is sorting at the camp when I leave, I announce my departure and I'm done with it.

Same. I basically ignore tells regarding camps I hold and I leave without notification whenever I choose to.

Just because I hold a camp doesn't mean it's my fuckin job to maintain a list.

[elhrairah]

Sorry to bump for an unrelated question, but I thought was better than making a new thread.

So I had this incident today in befallen. I was playing and camping elf skeleton on a lvl 18 cleric with 2 of my friends, lvl 16, and lvl 17. We were killing elf, but in between spawns we would clear other mobs, hoping to also get a thamaturge kill.

So we walk away from elf through the invisible wall and go clear thamaturges trash mobs, then see he is down and was killed 2 minutes ago by his corpse timer. So we walk back to camp and see that a high lvl player has invised past us (saw this looking at logs later), and is engaging the elf and kill it.

We dont freak out or rage on him. We tell him that we were indeed camping elf skele (we had been here for about an hour at this point, killing him on his 6m40s timer). He tells us that "that shit wont fly. You have to be in line of sight and you cant leave camps".

I try to explain that the forum rules allow you to camp multiple things, and that presence is only required when something is contested (which we now considered elf to be). He tells us that if something pops, it has to be engaged within 30 seconds. I tell him the forums said that it had to be "reasonable time" and that the example they gave was 5 minutes. (mind you he didnt even wait 30 seconds, he engaged it on pop).

After a few minutes of back and forth, he concedes without admitting anything wrong and sulks off. I come on the forums and read the rules again, and it seems we were indeed right. Am I missing something? This guy was from a well known high lvl guild, and if lvl 18's know the rules, was he just trying to bully us out of camp?

[azeth]

Originally Posted by elhrairah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry to bump for an unrelated question, but I thought was better than making a new thread.

So I had this incident today in befallen. I was playing and camping elf skeleton on a lvl 18 cleric with 2 of my friends, lvl 16, and lvl 17. We were killing elf, but in between spawns we would clear other mobs, hoping to also get a thamaturge kill.

So we walk away from elf through the invisible wall and go clear thamaturges trash mobs, then see he is down and was killed 2 minutes ago by his corpse timer. So we walk back to camp and see that a high lvl player has invised past us (saw this looking at logs later), and is engaging the elf and kill it.

We dont freak out or rage on him. We tell him that we were indeed camping elf skele (we had been here for about an hour at this point, killing him on his 6m40s timer). He tells us that "that shit wont fly. You have to be in line of sight and you cant leave camps".

I try to explain that the forum rules allow you to camp multiple things, and that presence is only required when something is contested (which we now considered elf to be). He tells us that if something pops, it has to be engaged within 30 seconds. I tell him the forums said that it had to be "reasonable time" and that the example they gave was 5 minutes. (mind you he didnt even wait 30 seconds, he engaged it on pop).

After a few minutes of back and forth, he concedes without admitting anything wrong and sulks off. I come on the forums and read the rules again, and it seems we were indeed right. Am I missing something? This guy was from a well known high lvl guild, and if lvl 18's know the rules, was he just trying to bully us out of camp?

1. You can "camp multiple things" until someone contests one of the camps.

2. That high level player in a round-a-bout way contested your elf camp

3. You chose to keep the camp

4. It was right of him to leave and you to get the camp

[Littlestgnome]

People like to get incredibly lawyer-ish about it. Take the Ass/sup camp for example. Shouldn't really be an issue if a group is holding the spawn from the much less claustrophobic room across from the ladder. Shouldn't be, but it is because people will try to claim it on grounds of not having a presence at the camp.

Not every spawn is lawyered this way however. Few if any groups camp the top floor spiders in Velks at their actual spawn locations. They camp on the ledge just below the ramp and bring them down. I've rarely if ever seen someone try to sit on those spiders and claim the group down below didn't have adequate "presence" at the spawn.

It's six of one, half dozen of the other. Neither group is literally standing on the spawn they're holding, but only one camp is ever challenged on those grounds. Furthermore only one group ever runs the risk of getting shouted down for not standing directly on the named mob they're holding either.

Honestly what it boils down to is the fact that one spawn can be soloed rather easily by most classes while the other cannot. Any coveted spawn that is easy to solo gets treated in this manner.