Rogue race and other questions.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sigh. Of course a rogue with a VP tanking weapon can keep aggro when (if) it procs, but you still lack snap aggro (taunt/spells).

And you're still not going to be stacking AGI for it.

Ofc I wouldn't stack AGI. I'm just arguing that it's not completely worthless. And tanking doesn't have that much to do with procs, honestly. Nightfall (9/16) in primary is basically an epic monk fist. Very very fast agro generation, and I'm thinking a seb dirk or locustlure would preform similarly. Backstab is remarkably good as a taunt button when you're not trying to shed agro.

[Kennie]

Dwarf

[SyanideGas]

Originally Posted by Kennie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dwarf

[Kutsumo]

Might consider throwing boulders in this decision if you'll be doing PVP (botb on blue, or just red in general).

[Kowalski]

On a side note: can you image how funny it would be if ogres could be monks and to see them flying kick?

[RDawg816]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any AC gains you get from AGI are negligible at best, so you should not be gearing for AGI at all. Besides, you shouldn't be getting hit much as a Rogue, anyway. You have no aggro management tools like taunt or spells, so you'd suck as a EXP group tank, and a lot of hate inducing weapons aren't even Rogue useable.

You're not going to be clutch-tanking on a raid, either. That's what knights (and Rangers in Velious to a lesser extent) are for. But if you did have to, dodge/riposte disciplines would override the need for armor until a Warrior/knight gained aggro, anyway. If you're tanking for longer than 12 seconds, something has obviously gone horribly wrong.

Not to start an argument, but for general information directed mainly at the OP or anyone reading this post...

I tank often on my rogue. I'm 39 atm, and it's not ideal but there isn't always a tank around. I've held many groups together for hours at a time in places like Highpass, SolA, OT, Droga, etc. I'm not saying you should gear specifically for AGI. I tend to go for str/dex and just pick up the other stats as riders.

Again, it's not my preferred role but I tank often enough I thought it worth mentioning. I did the same on my rogue on live back in the day as well. One was a barbarian, other is a halfling. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[wubblesnort]

Be a half elf because they're handsome.

[Monty405]

Originally Posted by wubblesnort [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be a half elf because they're handsome.

The male mustache half elf.

[wubblesnort]

If you're not a salt n pepper half elf, I don't really know what the hell is wrong with you.

[Malone88]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogues are terrible soloers. Even with epic, fungi, bandages, most fights will bring you within inches of death, if not worse. Instill doubt is unreliable at best. It used to be broken on this server and work better than it should have. It's been fixed now. Find a kiter with snare to duo. You're not going to be able to tank well yourself. You have no aggro abilities. Pet classes are out of the question because pets cannot tank over PCs in melee range.

Poisons are hard to use. You have to sit down to apply them, so it's best done when out of combat. Poison making is expensive to raise. You probably won't ever make any money back on it. It got better on live in the PoP era because poisons became self-buffs with charges like on WoW or Rift. They are not on the timeline of this server.

Agree with this completely, from my experience. Most fights bring you down below 50%, then you need to bandage up to 50%,
sit and wait before next fight. Very tedious. Intimidate is only useful once the skill is high, and even then,
it fails a good amount and you get beat on. Find a kiter to duo with or find groups. Can't use epic until 50 now either.
Doesn't sound like OP will be able to twink much at all, so soloing even more painful.