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[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gawd, really.

NN was just an example given on government assuming regulatory control over an Industry. I rather not have to litigate the destructive implications of NN again. I'm sure if u search the forums u can find that conversation at nausem.

And with his last breath, he muttered. "A generation of fools." And thus Rome perished.

I know where it is; I was the one conversing with you.

You still have no clue what the basic concept of NN is and you have used this entire thread to spin every argument into an anti-government/anti-taxation diatribe.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol it's has a Yes or No result though

Would you care to expound upon that?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gawd, really.

NN was just an example given on government assuming regulatory control over an Industry. I rather not have to litigate the destructive implications of NN again. I'm sure if u search the forums u can find that conversation at nausem.

And with his last breath, he muttered. "A generation of fools." And thus Rome perished.

Ele's right. You have failed to demonstrate any tangible association between your arguments and net neutrality. There is a a lot of misinformation surrounding the concept though, so that is understandable I suppose. Maybe give it a once over on Wikipedia ^^

[ronasch]

both of you are still missing my point. Whether or not NN is good or bad or alittle of both it was just an example I used to represent government intrusion into an industry that I believe they have NO authority over. Once again if u don't like the content/download speeds/etc. switch providers or go without. Those ISP's that aren't providing what the consumer wants, will either go bankrupt or change their business practices. Free market principles. Oh noes I can't download porn fast enuff.

[ronasch]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would you care to expound upon that?

Didn't think it needed explaining but ok.

Think Rome particularly the coliseum, thumbs up, thumbs down.

[Daldaen]

But why is the government bad?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch

both of you are still missing my point. Whether or not NN is good or bad or alittle of both it was just an example I used to represent government intrusion into an industry that I believe they have NO authority over. Once again if u don't like the content/download speeds/etc. switch providers or go without. Those ISP's that aren't providing what the consumer wants, will either go bankrupt or change their business practices. Free market principles. Oh noes I can't download porn fast enuff.

Is there a point to miss? Your posts are barely more than "government = bad."

You mentioned the US Constitution earlier, what about the Commerce Clause and the possibility for Congress to regulate certain utilities and Internet through that channel? Do you simply ignore that?

Is your entire argument and position merely philosophical in nature and the world would be better off with no government? At which point this whole discussion has been meaningless because it has no basis in modern day reality as to solve the issues we have been trying to discuss.

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't think it needed explaining but ok.

Think Rome particularly the coliseum, thumbs up, thumbs down.

So in your mind whether or not a gladiator fighting in The Coliseum provides a killing stroke (in a society that tolerated that particular behavior) provides a binary yes or no response to the question of whether or not the needs/wants of the many should ever trump an individual's liberty or freedom?

okay.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But why is the government bad?

This from someone calling for an amnesty on all existing illegals lol

[ronasch]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there a point to miss? Your posts are barely more than "government = bad."

You mentioned the US Constitution earlier, what about the Commerce Clause and the possibility for Congress to regulate certain utilities and Internet through that channel? Do you simply ignore that?

Is your entire argument and position merely philosophical in nature and the world would be better off with no government? At which point this whole discussion has been meaningless because it has no basis in modern day reality as to solve the issues we have been trying to discuss.



So in your mind whether or not a gladiator fighting in The Coliseum provides a killing stroke (in a society that tolerated that particular behavior) provides a binary yes or no response to the question of whether or not the needs/wants of the many should ever trump an individual's liberty or freedom?

okay.

Now I must litigate the commerce clause and how the government abuses it. Sorry "I neither the time nor inclination."

Time to kill dragons

[ronasch]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But why is the government bad?

It's not that government is bad, it's who's running it. The nature of man is evil, greed, selfishness, power hungry. Government is a pathway to achieve all that is evil. We have been spoiled as a society and have turned are backs on natures law, and self evident truths. We have defied basic principles, the same basic principles that forged America as the greatest civilization since Rome. We have out of ignorance and complacency Vote (R) or (D) because actually finding out who were voting for takes effort, and when we do find out we dismiss the warning signs because of our pride. Government doesn't have to be bad but we need higher standards when it comes to who were electing. Read The Law, by Bastiat your world will change

Ted Cruz 2016