Loughner declined from the army, but passed a background check to buy a gun?

[Nedala]

Just look at countries where its not piss easy to get guns, very few people get shoot in this countries, it could be so easy but guess most americans are blind.

[Harrison]

Yeah, let's increase welfare so people can buy more lobster and tenderloin steak every first of the month!

[Kassel]

This is an interesting link, sort by homicides.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate

[Occam's Butter Knife]

Originally Posted by Seeatee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what happened in AZ is terrible and a huge tragedy and unimaginable loss, that being said you can not take away peoples rights to own guns because of the few whackos on the fringe who can not play nice - if this guy didnt have access to a gun maybe he would have built a bomb, or drove a car into the crowd if he was so motived and wanted to hurt this person he would have found a way gun or no gun.

what we do need is deeper background checks and stricter screening processes saying who can and can not get a gun.

as it is right now, not so many people carry guns.

lets say you are a robber, you are walking down the street and find a nice juicy victim, as it is right now, the odds are a solid 99% chance they do not have a gun, you will rob them and get away no problem.

now lets say half of all people had guns - not just the bad guys but half of all people own a gun and carry it.

again you are a robber and your walking down the street and see a guy leaving the ATM, you still going to rob him knowing there is a 50% chance if you do, you are going to get shot in the face?

how many guys would rape women if they know there is a 50% chance if they do, they are getting a hot lead injection to the dome?

and to end my thoughts, one of my all time favorite quotes.

"If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns"

That's the fantasy the reality is that most gun owners who shoot someone do so in a fit of anger (pick your own volatile emotion) not self defense. Accidents make up another good portion. Found this article while looking for the FBI pie chart but this shows the same point more starkly.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...H_GRAPHIC.html

The percentage of people owning guns has declined since the 1980's yet so has the number of violent crimes. Gun ownership in Columbia is higher than in the US, yet the number of deaths due to violent crimes is much higher. This does not support the current NRA talking points tossed into this thread.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Shit. I had something to say about this but then that Asian girl with the big bouncy boobs came running in several hundred times and... who the hell are you people?

[boboo]

Originally Posted by Stibe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, if i was a robber and knew there was a 50% chance i was going to get shot, i'd just kill him instead of it just being a robbery.

Id like a pro-gun person to respond to that one

[Hoggen]

Originally Posted by Stibe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, if i was a robber and knew there was a 50% chance i was going to get shot, i'd just kill him instead of it just being a robbery.

There was a murder case recently tried and settled where two men did a home invasion and set the house on fire after raping and torturing a pre-teen girl and her mother. The father lived; the mother and daughter burned alive. I don't know if any of them had guns, but no one was shot. You don't need guns to murder. You don't need to worry about guns to want to murder anyone. If you have a gun, you may be able to defend yourself, or you may not. I just don't see it as anyone elses business as to whether anyone should choose to own a gun, and the SCOTUS agrees with me, in spite of being nearly half communist.

Nedala-Just look at countries where its not piss easy to get guns, very few people get shoot in this countries, it could be so easy but guess most americans are blind.

Not many people may have been shot to death in Rwanda, even though guns are likely easy to get if you have money, but over 800,000 were hacked to death with machetes and all manner of attrocities commited prior to those deaths. Again, guns do not equal murderous intent, nor do they guarantee safety, but your viewpoint is decidedly ignorant and one-sided.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, let's increase welfare so people can buy more lobster and tenderloin steak every first of the month!

fat hillbilly, gun freak against social programs. shocking.

also a military reject. i didnt even think this was possible unless you were clinically brain dead.

in short, you're fat.

[skulldudes]

no he's right man. poor people should not be allowed to eat good food. ONLY PORRIDGE AND MAYBE GRUEL IF THEY'RE LUCKY

[nalkin]

Lol pulling out a gun on someone robbing you is probably a good way to get you and/or whoever you are with killed. I'd rather just give him a 20 and walk away.