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[Swish]

In the UK there's people who don't pay their water bills, or at least they put them to the back of the pile.... because water is a basic human right and they aren't allowed to disconnect it etc.

Not sure that applies to internet though, really?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point exactly, we (the citizen) have become sooooooo dependant on the "Internet" that we can't even function in society without it. Talk about a flawed society. To think government involvement makes it better is farcical. They wanna make you even more dependant.

America can certainly "function" without it, we did for 200 years. However, America would fall behind the rest of the world without the Internet and quickly lose any status it has any kind of leader in technology, economy, or culture.

Reality doesn't mean you can't stop the insanity that's going on. The problem is when people aka Americans can't get what they want right this second they run to government to provide it. I don't understand this idea that because something u want is unaffordable you have a Right to Tax, Steal, Plunder others to get it, beneficial to society or not.

You keep positing this position, when I don't believe anyone here is making the counter-argument to tax everyone for free monthly internet service.

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Net neutrality = government involvement

You still obviously do not understand the basics of what net neutrality is and implications, if that is all you have to say about it.

[Champion_Standing]

The right to send and receive unlimited amounts of data

1st step towards a true transhumanist future.

[razzulx]

And sorry no I am not saying we should have free internet for everyone when I say treat it like Water / Power.

As a utility service there is a basic standard of service that is required from the provider, they can't just be like sorry your internet is down, we will get to it when we can next week. They are required to keep a certain uptime % for water/power or get fined.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The right to send and receive unlimited amounts of data

1st step towards a true transhumanist future.

Time to enter the Oculus Rift and shed this mortal coil!

[ronasch]

Another observation, comparing the "Internet" to Electricity or Running Water is absurd. I would ague the benefits of the discovery and replication of Electricity are much more pivotal to humanity's survival. As well as harnessing H2O, did u hear about the girl who died because she had no internet for 3 days?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another observation, comparing the "Internet" to Electricity or Running Water is absurd. I would ague the benefits of the discovery and replication of Electricity are much more pivotal to humanity's survival. As well as harnessing H2O, did u hear about the girl who died because she had no internet for 3 days?

It is being compared to electricity, heat, and water in terms of infrastructure planning and capital expenditure. Not that it is a basic component essential to human survival.

Keep bringing the strawmans though.

[razzulx]

No, but if the Telecom's are gonna take the money and they did, they should have some standards they have to keep.

[phacemeltar]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another observation, comparing the "Internet" to Electricity or Running Water is absurd. I would ague the benefits of the discovery and replication of Electricity are much more pivotal to humanity's survival. As well as harnessing H2O, did u hear about the girl who died because she had no internet for 3 days?

you dont think that a universal means of communicating ideas is pivotal to humanity's survival? were in the future now, an age of ideas. youre arguing against the basis for democracy, the ruling global ideal.

edit: i realize that im not addressing congress here, so i dont expect to be taken seriously ofc.

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Internet, like health care, like credit scoring is too integral to an Americans life to be dealt with in a capitalist private sector. Not saying our gov has the expertise at the moment to take over and offer these services, but it needs to.

Just let me pay taxes and give me the Internet, health care, access to a transparent credit system etc

The way America is headed, that socialist utopia you speak of may just become a reality. They run the largest deficit in the free world, and can't even deliver the mail without going into the red, and you want them to take on more responsibility? I find your lack of logic disturbing.