Ringwar post mortem - post thoughts here

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven't read thread so not sure if this was brought up but...is a ring war failure supposed to spawn Dain? Cause it did.

Not supposed to. So currently a bug.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Stormfists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Final wave was bugged -30 people running after a giant who, when engaged should stop... Instead they warped 30M ahead of those people chasing and vastly outpaced sow.

Dwarfs didn't engage too.

All true.

As it is (without some tuning), I don't think it's winnable irrespective of tactics and execution.

[nilbog]

Which dwarves didn't engage, when, and under what circumstances?

[Sallan]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which dwarves didn't engage, when, and under what circumstances?

I was commanding zrelik so I didn't move out too far to see them. But the ones I noticed were Korgin and his crossbow men, just west of the dual huts center of the river just before thurg. Only after I called certain hero's to come they appeared to be attacking (but somewhat buggy since the giants were also warping'ish).

I would say the dwarfs in general were just standing around looking pretty

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Sallan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was commanding zrelik so I didn't move out too far to see them. But the ones I noticed were Korgin and his crossbow men, just west of the dual huts center of the river just before thurg.

Kargin and his men are permarooted. They have the same faction as the other dwarves, and should range attack giants within range. However, the giants probably won't stop to engage them unless they are in melee range.

Is this what you experienced, or something different?

[Sallan]

That looks right for kargin and his men at least. The giants were a few feat away from them but they didn't engage the dwarfs or vice versa (but them being perma rooted explains the dwarfs physical engagement). I can't say I noticed the crossbowmen ranging either but I could have easily missed it

[Itap]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kargin and his men are permarooted. They have the same faction as the other dwarves, and should range attack giants within range. However, the giants probably won't stop to engage them unless they are in melee range.

Is this what you experienced, or something different?

The bowmen did not range attack at all, I watched a pack of giants walk right through them unharmed

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kargin and his men are permarooted. They have the same faction as the other dwarves, and should range attack giants within range. However, the giants probably won't stop to engage them unless they are in melee range.

Is this what you experienced, or something different?

I dragged 3 giants within about 100 range of the archers and even took one within melee range and they sat still And lifeless the entire time.

[ppdanny]

In waves 1 and 2, I was able to land root a lot more than I was able to on wave 3. Even with Malo on wave 3 root would break almost instantly 5 times in a row. In waves 1 and 2, the only time mobs were engaged is when they were rooted. When root wore off, they could be seen to keep making their way towards Thurgadin. If a mob wasn't rooted - it didn't agro, period. (Giants).

Highsun would return giants to spawn point, but was also make them start running instead of just walking towards Thurgadin.

[Alunova]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bowmen did not range attack at all, I watched a pack of giants walk right through them unharmed

They may have been targeting an out of range giant from another group that was not dead yet?