Ranger - is Woodsman staff the only real option till raid gear?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Kinvalar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can have a lot of fun later on with ranger with spam (mostly for pushing casters and forcing interrupts) by tossing a Rev Whip from Hate into main-hand (5/14). Numbers just fly when you're swinging at 7 delay with proper haste.

Isn't delay meant to be bottom capped at like 10 or something in eq?


... hmm this might be a job for the bug investigation team!

[Fanguru]

"Lot of fun with pushing" also comes with more aggro. Np in a group environment, but I would not play with that on a raid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't delay meant to be bottom capped at like 10 or something in eq?


... hmm this might be a job for the bug investigation team!

That is my recollection. Although I cannot recall if it was always that way or the result of a patch.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't delay meant to be bottom capped at like 10 or something in eq?


... hmm this might be a job for the bug investigation team!

LOL, if there was a minimum it was not 10 or close to it. Say hello to the finest enrage plow in EQ: http://wiki.project1999.com/Bixie_Sword_Blade. Used it on a chromadrac for giggles once and the riposte procs stripped my buffs in about 3 seconds. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Awesome push on a mob with no DS, especially when hasted. When I killed Miragul for my paladin epic drop, with the bixie blade on my Paladin plus a dual-wielding Monk (both of us hasted) we pushed him so hard he never got a spell off (he was red-con, didn't bother wasting time trying to cast a stun.)

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't delay meant to be bottom capped at like 10 or something in eq?


... hmm this might be a job for the bug investigation team!

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is my recollection. Although I cannot recall if it was always that way or the result of a patch.

The minimum delay is 5 per this 2011 P99 patch.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...=minimum+delay

[maskedmelon]

I meant on live back I the day. If we patched it to 5 delay here the. That means that at some point on live it was changed to the 10 that stuck I our heads ^^. Thanks for clarifying Ele. Good stuff to know ^^

[blondeattk]

was chatting to high lvl monk today from rampage, in thurgadin and we agreed...WTH are all the ...

http://wiki.project1999.com/Velium_Brawl_Stick (and better)

ive seen none and hed seen 1.

ive seen all the other velium weapons for sale but non of these.

any clue why?

one of the best looking velious weapons out there imo!

[Man0warr]

I've seen the Exquisite Brawl Sticks (32/36 and a 30/36 version) drop in DN off rats while farming Vilefang. The best ratio versions of all the weapons are pretty rare though - they seem to drop more commonly off Sontalak and other harder WW dragons.

Way more expensive than Woodsman Staff at this point though.

[Kutsumo]

Spent a bit of time comparing the best DW weapons I could acquire to the woodsman staff in the low 20s on my ranger.

12/21 + 12/22 for the DW (exquisite sword + barbed spear)

I based it on how long, on average, it took me to kill the mobs I was grinding on. They have ~450hp each. Parsing with gamparse and had it set to ignore pulls so the combat time would be pretty close.

Woodsman staff average over 50 mobs: 25 seconds
DW average over 50 mobs: 32 seconds

I imagine that gap would close a bit once at 29+ when double attack hits 150 and offhand begins double attacking. For the time being I went ahead and sold the 1hers... not worth all that plat tied up in inferior weapons.

[ghost182]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spent a bit of time comparing the best DW weapons I could acquire to the woodsman staff in the low 20s on my ranger.

12/21 + 12/22 for the DW (exquisite sword + barbed spear)

I based it on how long, on average, it took me to kill the mobs I was grinding on. They have ~450hp each. Parsing with gamparse and had it set to ignore pulls so the combat time would be pretty close.

Woodsman staff average over 50 mobs: 25 seconds
DW average over 50 mobs: 32 seconds

I imagine that gap would close a bit once at 29+ when double attack hits 150 and offhand begins double attacking. For the time being I went ahead and sold the 1hers... not worth all that plat tied up in inferior weapons.

the woodsmans staff is going to be hitting for nearly double the dmg 30+? damage cap remember?