TMO or Empire

[Ragnaros]

Ive been on both sides
Empire— Ex classic Holocaust core who got their guild banned/disbanded for exploiting dragon AoEs, their leadership has been known for Aongate and deletegate where their leadership was responsivle for the deletions of 10+ BiS Azrael characters, and this new holocaust 2.0 uprising was sponsored and started up with AoNs bought for real money from people who quit. Leadership in Empire will also resort totraining and other illegal tactics when they know they cannot win ex; Colgate training GG PD attempt and earning his guild a 1 week suspension, these guys have no integrity and dont give a fuck about the rules. This guild also wouldnt exsist and half of this core would still be on blue/quit if a corrupt GM who was fired didnt disband the #1 guild and give this crew the server uncontested.

TMO- Great leadership who have a short leash on their players, very quiet and orderly teamspeak. Only con about this guild is that they didnt go Red sooner

[magician]

^^ cringing HARD (ragnaros joined and got kicked from empire 4-6 times.)

[VictomEyez]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive been on both sides
Empire— Ex classic Holocaust core who got their guild banned/disbanded for exploiting dragon AoEs, their leadership has been known for Aongate and deletegate where their leadership was responsivle for the deletions of 10+ BiS Azrael characters, and this new holocaust 2.0 uprising was sponsored and started up with AoNs bought for real money from people who quit. Leadership in Empire will also resort totraining and other illegal tactics when they know they cannot win ex; Colgate training GG PD attempt and earning his guild a 1 week suspension, these guys have no integrity and dont give a fuck about the rules. This guild also wouldnt exsist and half of this core would still be on blue/quit if a corrupt GM who was fired didnt disband the #1 guild and give this crew the server uncontested.

TMO- Great leadership who have a short leash on their players, very quiet and orderly teamspeak. Only con about this guild is that they didnt go Red sooner

Salty used to do the same thing to that dragon when he was fish bait in vztz...you also support that guild right?

[Uuruk]

Ragnaros writing books on the forums? What is happening? ??

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by magician [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^ cringing HARD (ragnaros joined and got kicked from empire 4-6 times.)

Left both times, Colgate still begs me to come back
Ill pass.

[Pikrib]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxV7NfDxDAE

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ragnaros writing books on the forums? What is happening? ??

Someone has to pick up the slack while Gasoline collects his welfare, u feels?

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by magician [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tarding HARD

ftfy

[Zaral]

As someone who is new/fresh to Red and only reached 35 so far, I've had both positive and negative experiences with both sides.

There's plenty of trash spewed by both sides in ooc but that is just the nature of a PVP server with global ooc.

Aside from one unfortunate Empire member being a complete jerk to me for no reason when I was a newb (all verbal from a high level, no pvp related), most Empire members I've come across have been very helpful and cool.

All TMO interactions have been cool as well.

That said, this is all sub raid level.

This has actually been a helpful/insightful thread overall though, so thanks to all that aren't trolling.

May help decide which to join come 46+!

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone has to pick up the slack while Gasoline collects his welfare, u feels?

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