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Old 12-24-2010, 02:18 PM
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Yah...I remember my first Compuserve bill too...

$600.00. For one month. Yay.
Thus why I made sure to look into unlimited useage accounts instead of based on time. They were a little more expensive, but worth it if you left your comp on and online 24/7.

Luckilly, I was in an area with it's own local ISP. (When you're in the backwoods, a company called "Three Bubbas' Innanet" shouldn't surprise ya.)

Lot cheaper than the big companies of back then.
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Old 12-24-2010, 03:38 PM
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netzero ftw.
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Old 12-24-2010, 03:45 PM
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Yah...I remember my first Compuserve bill too...

$600.00. For one month. Yay.
It's far more than that. That is what they want you to think, that it's only extra few bucks down the road. Meanwhile the government begins it's regulations, this current step at least, one of the many as they have already made progress. Same general principle that applied to our auto makers, of which the end result is the government managing what GM produces now etc. ie expensive electric cars that no one wants. Politicians, most anyway, have no damn skill-set for running business, only pandering to special interest. Watch, the eventual buzzword will be "too big to fail" and you'll see trillions (with an s) out the door to gawd knows where (again). Then we will see that last gasp of privately held/owned telecommunications. The only question remains is how much longer until it happens, as they have had their plans in motion for some time. Not just this, but the whole plan; this is just a fragment of the greater picture.
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Old 12-24-2010, 04:03 PM
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netzero ftw.
btw (got that post in while I was proofing mine) netzero sux. I had that a few years back, a regular sub, and they kept screwing up the billing. If you want to clear it up, you pretty much need to learn to speak Indian, because they sure as hell cant speak discernible English. Then they tried to ding my credit. They are bastards, one and all. /rant
I'll stick with Verizon on this, as well as side with them on the general topic. I don't think it takes much life experience to figure out where this is headed. A little business sense is good to have too, as those of us who have/do start/maintain small businesses.
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Old 12-26-2010, 03:55 PM
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Net neutrality warriors, quit your whining. We haven't had net neutrality rules for the past 10 years and have we seen all of these terrible things you claim will happen because they aren't implementing it now? ISPs are in the job of making money. To do that, they must have customers. If they implement draconian rules that people hate, they will not have customers. So will they implement these rules? Doubtful. People who don't understand remedial economics bore me.

We didn't create a Martian Missile Defense System this year, therefore we're going to be invaded my Martians!
You have to be the dumbest piece of shit I have met. Money and greed drives our country you tool, and the entire ISP model from the start was set up to ultimately control the internet in a way that brings about more money. Also, ISPs have monopolies you ass hat. You can't walk down the street to buy a new ISP contract or find a service provider, and no 2 or 3 in an area is not competition. Learn some fucking economics before you speak asshole. Fucking American idiocies...
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:38 PM
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You have to be the dumbest piece of shit I have met. Money and greed drives our country you tool, and the entire ISP model from the start was set up to ultimately control the internet in a way that brings about more money. Also, ISPs have monopolies you ass hat. You can't walk down the street to buy a new ISP contract or find a service provider, and no 2 or 3 in an area is not competition. Learn some fucking economics before you speak asshole. Fucking American idiocies...
Maybe it's different in your area, but I can think of a half dozen different ways to get high speed internet where I live. And if you don't mind using a phone line, you can use any one of dozens of ISPs. I'm really excited about the expansion of smart phones, as they increase the need for fast wifi. As fast wifi becomes more ubiquitous, we will have dozens or hundreds of companies that can provide us with a fast connection.

I'm not too worried about there being too little competition in the future, unless the government is able to pass regulations which allows it to determine who may compete, and net neutrality laws are that Trojan horse. I, too, dislike big businesses that want to screw over customers. Unfortunately, they have learned that using the government is the best way to obtain a monopoly. We want to avoid having a few unelected bureaucrats in charge of the rules of the internet. People are corruptible and once a few people are given the power to make decisions that affect huge industries, the big players in those industries will use their influence to make sure the rules are stacked in their favor.
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:22 AM
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the last thing we need is the fcc being able to regulate the intarweb,they are over-reaching,the courts have already ruled that theyre overstepping their mandate...

they dont have the authority to regulate the intarweb,it is free and should stay as-is...giving the government more authority over it would be a huge loss for ALL people.

these companies make plenty of money,they dont need "toll lanes"...the UN regulating the internet???? that should give everyone a sad face...

unfortunately you can count on obama being a supporter of "net neutrality",which is a loaded pile of bs,what the fuck does it mean? it all depends on whether youre for it or against it,and we can be sure that any bill that is passed in favor of it is over 1000 pages of bullshit that takes away freedom that we currently have.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:49 PM
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"Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem."
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:20 PM
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"Stupid one liners that offer no substance or alternatives are not the solution to our problem. Stupid one liners that offer no substance or alternatives are the problem."
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:43 PM
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It's far more than that. That is what they want you to think, that it's only extra few bucks down the road. Meanwhile the government begins it's regulations, this current step at least, one of the many as they have already made progress. Same general principle that applied to our auto makers, of which the end result is the government managing what GM produces now etc. ie expensive electric cars that no one wants.
If you are referring to the Chevy Volt, you are way off base on your timeline and it's background. Chevy had been working on the Volt for at least two years prior to even asking for a bailout (the idea had been kicked around since 2005, but they started building parts of it in 2007). The production of the Volt did not come from any government regulation stating that GM must build an electric car as there hasn't been any regulation to that effect. As for no one wanting it, last I heard there was a waiting list of over 50,000 people, which is enough to take up the first two years of production.

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