That moment when you decided to quit EQ live

[Corpsed]

Originally Posted by unleashedd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

never pvp'd on EQ live, but world pvp in WoW sucked for me as a holy paladin. on the other hand, alterac valley must have been the most pvp fun i've ever had. this is why i started playin on r99, hoping for something similar...

And was it similar?

[unleashedd]

Originally Posted by Corpsed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And was it similar?

dunno, im only 42 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Celedor]

Originally Posted by Thiefboy777 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- overly annoying mob mechanics, trash that summons, immune to cc, immune to run speed changes... its basically "you must kill these mobs this way".

This really annoyed me. Eliminated kiting as a tactic, for example. What I loved about early EQ was how the players came up with different ways of doing/killing things.

I was very disappointed in EQ2 when I found out that I couldn't even sneak into the enemy city, no matter how imaginative I was (though I probably missed something). EQ became like that to me. That's not why I quit (a lot of my guild went to EQ2), but I was losing interest in EQ.

And those mob names in GoD made no sense.

[Daldaen]

51+ trash summoning was also a horrible design decision.

Summoning should've been saved for named bosses and raid mobs. Random frogloks in Sebilis summoning is retarded though.

Let a group or Necros shamans and Druids have a root rot fest if they want to. Just like a balanced group can balance and a charm group can charm.

Just one of the reason Kunark was a bad expansion. Luclin/PoP fixed that stupid decision and made certain content favorable for one type of play style and certain content favorable for another.

[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PoK books? yes, they're pretty stupid.

Nexus spires? WTF no, get a grip. Nexus spires are like boats, long waits and only one location per continent so long runs to get to and from the spires. The only port "customers" lost to Nexus spires were the ones who couldn't afford to tip or who would run and ride a boat anyway because they were too goddamn tight to tip, i.e. none. I am continuously boggled by people who insist Nexus ports had any real impact on the importance of port classes. "Oh noes, somebody can get from here to there in only 45 minutes without being extorted by Joe Illmannereddruid. Oh the horror! Oh the humanity!" Gimme a break.

Spoken like a true non-porting class player. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[myriverse]

Every port class I knew back in the day was grateful for the spires.

[Sancta]

Originally Posted by wormed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WoW vanilla was extremely difficult. Sorry to tell you. It had many elements of EQ especially requiring large raids. Molten Core in its first iteration was ridiculous. Same thing from going from basic Sebilis yard trash to Plane of Sky "trash." I remember my guilds first foray into MC, we had to give up after the first 4 mobs due to getting our asses pushed in. ADD: And to clarify, my guild was a "server first" competitor guild. We got things like Magmadar first, and one of only 2 guilds to take down pre-made easy Onyxia. We were on Kel'thuzad if anyone out there remembers. Horde Gone Wild!

Onyxia was also ridiculous pre-nerf.

Anyway, I won't defend WoW vigorously or anything. The game descended into exactly what you're saying. However, I'll always appreciate WoW vanilla. It was definitely a different beast. TBC wasn't bad but it definitely had all the elements of making the game awful, ie. itemization becoming ridiculous, battlegrounds killing world pvp, etc.

100% agree, Vanilla WoW before all the nerfs was a huge challenge, only a handful of guilds actually cleared that content pre-nerf. Glad to say I was in one them and it was exhilarating clearing it at the time.

Vanilla Wow had all the elements p99 EQ had, I mean the game was literally based straight off EQ, they mention it several times in their WoW documentaries on how it was made. I remember actually getting Mage ports from continent to continent because it was a ton faster and you needed other professions (blacksmithing engin etc) because each made an item for the other profession. And other things like having to actually go to the dungeon you're about to do.

[curtischoy]

First of all, I am amazed that this has stayed (mostly) on topic for almost 130 posts.

I quit EQ after SoD came out. I had played for 10 years and I had conquered almost every expansion, group and raid. I never raided the end content in SoD because I stopped playing like 3 weeks after it dropped.

There is no particular reason I stopped playing. I just stopped. It wasn't even a decision, I just didn't play for a day. Then I didn't play for a week. Then I didn't play for a...

That was in early 2009 when I stopped. I found P99 early 2013. EQ was an amazing game and still remains my favorite video game of all time. The amount of memories I have from this game vastly surpass the amount of memories I have from every single other video game I have ever played combined. Some frustrating (it is EQ, after all) but most are very fond. I made several RL connections in my time in the game and some I still talk to today. P99 has done a wonderful job recreating this amazing game and more than that they have recreated the way I feel when I play. Nothing will ever bring it back, but I am glad that the P99 staff did such a damn good job trying.

I still think about my old guild Grey Horizon on the E'ci(Tunare) server.

[Itap]

Perhaps subconsciously you quit playing because the game got stale.

How people played up until a few years ago baffles me. Were you actually playing with other people, or just boxed/mercs?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps subconsciously you quit playing because the game got stale.

How people played up until a few years ago baffles me. Were you actually playing with other people, or just boxed/mercs?

I would raid Sunday/Monday and then solo/box old raid content or level Alts during the other hours. I also ran open raids on Saturdays for the entire server to come to.

Being a Druid, charm killing remained the best leveling strategy up til 95. At 96/97, "Quint" kiting (Quadding but our new 91/92 and 96/97 AEs included 5 targets instead of 4) became better/faster exp. So I was able to get to the new level caps or new AAs via soloing (I abhor grind groups that are single pull, bullshit boring groups. Pull 10+ and let me root CC or don't invite me.)

During new expansions when there was progression/flagging to be done, typically we would do that with 4-6 real people and fill in with boxes / mercs as necessary. After everyone got flagged for raiding or the final tier of group zones those groups died off.

Really, beyond the first month or so of the expansions, you could complete all the progression you needed without much play time. It would take awhile if you were going for achievements. But as a raider you really just needed some progression, 4-5 group Augments and that's it. It was very casual. The Alts are what took forever to gear up in group gear though.