The Earth stands on the brink of its sixth mass extinction and the fault is ours

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forest fires are actually pretty beneficial, and are occasionally done intentionally. Sometimes a reset is a good thing.

Would you say a sixth mass extinction caused by humans is a good thing?

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well ill give you that this 55 numbers was taken from friends of my mom who live there, not something i verified thoughroughly. Most likely they were talking with humidex on top of it and now that ive checked it, probably a good story they were trying to weave that they exagerrated.

What they were saying though, is that they cant really deal with even a little more of heat because it gets so hot already you need to stay in the shade during parts of the day.

So far in this thread, you've shown that you are willing to believe any sensationalist claim whether it comes from a misinterpretation of a scientific study, or a mistaken friend of your mom. Gullible doesn't even begin to describe this pattern of thought. Don't even try and use the word 'science' in the same sentence with anything you believe. You clearly live your life so far from the skeptical and truth-seeking nature of science that it's an insult to everyone who has worked so hard to produce our current understanding of nature using logic, reason, and observation.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well ill give you that this 55 numbers was taken from friends of my mom who live there, not something i verified thoughroughly. Most likely they were talking with humidex on top of it and now that ive checked it, probably a good story they were trying to weave that they exagerrated.

What they were saying though, is that they cant really deal with even a little more of heat because it gets so hot already you need to stay in the shade during parts of the day.

"my moms friends said if it hotter there will be a mass extinction and the worlds flat"

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So far in this thread, you've shown that you are willing to believe any sensationalist claim whether it comes from a misinterpretation of a scientific study, or a mistaken friend of your mom. Gullible doesn't even begin to describe this pattern of thought. Don't even try and use the word 'science' in the same sentence with anything you believe. You clearly live your life so far from the skeptical and truth-seeking nature of science that it's an insult to everyone who has worked so hard to produce our current understanding of nature using logic, reason, and observation.

Yeah, i used a bad example... so that discredits the 97% consensus of climate scientists?

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, i used a bad example... so that discredits the 97% consensus of climate scientists?

no but it discredits you because you're a fear-mongering lunatic trying to spread fear because if more people feel the way you do then maybe you're not the crazy one like everyone has always said.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no but it discredits you because you're a fear-mongering lunatic trying to spread fear because if more people feel the way you do then maybe you're not the crazy one like everyone has always said.

Pretty much this. I'm not saying the earth isn't warming or that it's not partially man's doing. But I'm not going to flip out and believe that the earth will be an uninhabitable ball of molten rock, when all evidence points to the contrary. And I'm not interested in getting into a debate on that point with someone who uses their mom's friend as a primary source for knowledge.

[Tradesonred]

lol you guys are more interested in "winning" against me more than the issues, slathar especially. Slathar would rather spread the notion that the climate isnt affected by CO2 than missing a chance to get back at me. The point of the El Salvador example was that its already hot as fuck down there and they cant really deal with a 2-5 degree increase in temperature.

[vageta31]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol you guys are more interested in "winning" against me more than the issues, slathar especially. Slathar would rather spread the notion that the climate isnt affected by CO2 than missing a chance to get back at me. The point of the El Salvador example was that its already hot as fuck down there and they cant really deal with a 2-5 degree increase in temperature.

Whether or not they can deal with it has no bearing on the discussion. The climate is cyclical and has been for billions of years. Whether humans are on the planet or not, the geographical location of El Salvador will warm and cool without humans in the equation.

You also obviously didn't read some of the links above. The earth hasn't been on a warming trend since 1997, yet our C02 levels have skyrocketed in that time period. Meaning C02 itself doesn't influence the climate as much as was once believed. Ie; Activist scientists are desperately trying to come up with "reasons". Fact is, we don't understand yet. The climate is extremely complex and factors outside of our planet also play a role. It is foolish, and downright irresponsible to attempt to make any drastic changes to our way of life until we actually understand our place in the equation. We may end up doing more harm than good.

Also I don't think Ulth was saying a mass extinction of man, by man is good. I beleive he was saying from a statistical standpoint that another mass extinction is immenent.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol you guys are more interested in "winning" against me more than the issues, slathar especially. Slathar would rather spread the notion that the climate isnt affected by CO2 than missing a chance to get back at me. The point of the El Salvador example was that its already hot as fuck down there and they cant really deal with a 2-5 degree increase in temperature.

I care about as much about "winning" against you as I do winning a tennis match against Stephan Hawking. I was simply pointing out that nobody is going to want to have this discussion that you're so desperate to have when you repeatedly show that you believe in mistaken information based on very dubious sources. So either start adding a little research to your process of forming an opinion, or stop complaining when people don't want to discuss topics with a child.

[vageta31]

Winter is coming...

And the plot thickens.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...s-plummet.html

Unlike global warming alarmist pseudo-science, the maunder minimum is real science and has been observed and studied for hundreds of years and was the likely cause of the mini ice age that happened in the 1600's. Still, the prediction has been based on a model which can always be wrong. Regardless, this model is apparently far more accurate up to this point than anything the global warming alarmists have been able to fabricate so if I had to place a bet on which to trust, I'll go with this one. There is actual data to support the theory.

Quick everyone, buy an SUV with a V8, leave your lights on, double your meat intake and light your fireplace even in the summer. We need to prepare for the end!!!!!!!!!