Backstab + begging + loot timer + mend/sense heading

[jeremy0818]

To make it closer to live (at least to real kunark/velious era)

Loot timer - should be able to loot someone else's kill after 5min 50sec instead of 4min 50sec

Begging - should be able to raise skill on npcs that have agro, I did it all the time (auto attack off, beg, auto attack on)

Mend/sense heading - should not require training from guild master (which it does at the moment)

Backstab - current formula showing example numbers for easy reference (offense 252 + strength 255)/100 * ( weapon dmg 15 * (2 + backstab 225 * 0.02)) = 494.xxx which is why many rogues are reporting seeing 494 max

Should be:

(Offense 252 + strength 255)/100 * (((weapon dmg 15 * (2 + backstab 225 * 0.02)) + dmg bonus 11.66666) = 553.xxx, which is more familiar number

[jeremy0818]

Please disregard the backstab section, it seem to be working as the formula I suggested, the game mechanic section information is a bit off on backstab and I must have looked at the rogue posts from several years ago

[myriverse]

This should really be in the Bugs forum, and you need to submit proof not just your memory, but...

Begging works only on NPCs with player character races, as it should.

[myriverse]

^ meant only humanoids

[dafier]

I remember sense heading in Velious being zero and able to raise the skill without using a point to raise it to one from the master.

Also, I concur completely with myriverse.

[jeremy0818]

Thank you I will post it in bugs forum

[Tiewon Shu]

I raised Mend & Sense Heading just fine without training. <shrugs>

[Kengo]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I raised Mend & Sense Heading just fine without training. <shrugs>

I can't remember offhand with Mend, but I've had to put a point into Sense Heading on every character in P99. Just recently did so on a druid and the skill went up to 10 after putting the point in, so it's not just terrible RNG.

[Swish]

Loot timer is spot on 5 mins before the mob decays

[hynch]

Public loot time was 5 min 55 sec on live.