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Old 07-03-2015, 08:47 AM
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Ogres don't understand why dark elves get chosen. They can't even hold a set of armor up with that strength. Cheap, ha.
It's much easier to get STR items with STA than to raise INT for using the magic spells.
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Old 07-03-2015, 09:48 AM
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It's much easier to get STR items with STA than to raise INT for using the magic spells.
^ this

Played thru to OoW on a troll sk. Mana pool was painful. Plan on going DE
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Old 07-03-2015, 11:11 AM
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Ogre for that STA and stun immune.
Iksar for that greenmist and ac bonus(but no blood ember pants)
erudite for the mana pool
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:49 PM
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Human because true master race.
Otherwise, go Erudite or DE for awesome good looks.
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:41 PM
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Old 07-04-2015, 02:02 AM
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I think and know a lot depends if you want to group more than solo. If you are into grouping come hell or high water Ogre is the way to go. If you are more into soloing than you HAVE to pick either Troll or Iksar. I like Iksar because of the smaller size, but would miss the purple eyes lol. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it is pretty hard to beat the stats of a Orge SK, not counting the Stun immunity thingy. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It helps I don't care what anyone says.
This is a very good observation. While Ogre is definitely one of the best, they are not strictly better than some other races. Not being stunned from the front is situationally nice, but its worth noting that its only really important for certain raid encounters for the most part -- and SKs don't MT anything serious generally.
While obviously any race can be a great SK, I would say the power gaming decision is between Erudite, Iksar, Ogre, and Troll.

Erudite: Correct me if wrong -- but I don't think anyone has hope of capping Intelligence except Erudite in Velious (or maybe Dark Elf). Meanwhile, capping melee stats is much more easy with the way itemization worked in classic. The downside is that early stats are very bad without heavy twinking, native vision sucks, and no bonus regain or stun resistance.

Iksar: I wouldn't unless you are specifically leveling an alt to be raid geared in Velious. Before earning NO DROP raid gear -- no other race/class combo gets as screwed on gear as Iksar. Additionally, their starting stats are not great. End game Velious however, they are arguably the best because of AC/regain. I'm pretty sure they are strictly better than Trolls (very marginally) at the end of Velious, because they have the same regeneration (and also AC bonus).

Ogre: The one we have heard so much about. Best starting stats and can't be stunned from the front. Arguable, not being stunned from the front is more important than regeneration. I contend that regeneration is more likely to come in handy more often - especially if soloing.

Troll: I'm suprised no one mentioned Troll. In original and Kunark, Troll is the best SK IMO. Their starting stats are good, they can use raid gear and they have regeneration. It isn't until the end of Velious when Iksar surpass them -- barely. I'm pretty sure later on -- they changed regeneration so that Trolls had more. But in Velious era I don't think this was the case. If I ever started on a progression server as an SK -- probably go Troll myself.

Edit: It really is surprising how big a deal people make out of Fungi Tunic - compared to the Troll/Iksar race. Racial health regeneration is bigger than a fungi bonus and is on top of all your gear!
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Old 07-05-2015, 09:46 PM
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I would love to see a non ogre/iksar win the bext SK best of the best just to prove how little it matters, particularly in Velious gear.
A troll won the sk botb on red

For pvp it absolutely matters its troll/iksar or bust you cant put a price on the extra regen

for blue you could roll a high elf sk if it were possible and it wouldnt matter at all
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