FCC kills Net Neutrality

[xnolanx]

Rules and Regulations for the internet and providers should be handled by something like the UN, not individual countries' governments.

amen.... how can the us ran and regulated FCC monitor something that is universal, and a public domain open to every country and person

[Auchae]

Originally Posted by Ihealyou [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm unhappy with this too, but I want to play devil's advocate for a minute.

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[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules and Regulations for the internet and providers should be handled by something like the UN, not individual countries' governments.

Even worse. I don't want my government messing with it let alone the UN for crying out loud.

We are already way over regulated, to a crippling point. It only gives power to governments and/or to organization such as the UN that imo only looks out for their own selfish interests. As long as it remains as it is now, it gives people the ability to impact their practices with how we spend our money.

Has nothing to do with global warming, world population crisis, 2012 doomsday or space aliens making cook books of us. But you know, like everything else they touch, such controlling entities get their claws into it, it will be about everything else so to manipulate it into this intrusive and controlling entity that lacks any sense of the word freedom.

[Henini]

USA will be annexed by china probably with in the next century. they already own all of the industries and 90% of the goods + the country it's self has how many gazillions of debt to china?

for the internet topic.... they are going at this the wrong way

analogy:

truck drives on the roads in the us to bring package to destination.
roads belong to the government.
truck gets caught with illegal merchandise.
Hey government should have prevented that, lets see what we can do, I know, lets limit who can drive on the roads.

like seriously... wake up.
before internet, people pirated shit on cd's, before cd's it was floppies, before floppies it was tapes, before tapes well there wasn't anything before tapes.

now it's easy to distribute a product because of the modern technologies, so yes, there is more pirating going on, there is also a lot more legit distribution happening then there use to 20-30 years ago.

as for "but some people use more bandwith the others" argument. it's moot!
we all pay for our service's bandwith and so do every site or services you hit when you brows or download on the internet.
guess what, torrents... ISPS make a lot of money off those. all the stuff I download, I get charged for bandwith every month in my service plan, if I go over, I get charged out of the ass. so they make even more money.
face book, youtube etc... they have to pay just like everyone else, granted with self generated revenue, but some telco is pocketing loads of cash cuz of those sites.

the problem comes from greedy telco that want to "sell" you a big pipe and then turn around and complain when you use it.
like wtf...
you expect me to pay loads of cash for the internet service that does Xmb/s but when I use it you gonna bitch at me?
then what are you selling me exactly?

and yeah... like some people said. US is just 1 country, internet isn't the US, it's the world now.

host your servers in off-shore and this whole thing will be moot again. all that will do is drive the economy down some more. and make isps from other countries try to avoid routing trough the US.
which will cause seclusion which is a bad thing.

really guys, more isn't always better. stop with all the rules and the controlling what everyone does. you are making Russia sound like a nice place to live.

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by Ihealyou [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm unhappy with this too, but I want to play devil's advocate for a minute.

Whats wrong with paying for the amount of bandwidth you use? Right now, people who use less bandwidth are subsidizing the people who use more. I realize it would suck for me and most people here who use the internet a lot, but I'm having trouble seeing how it isn't fair to charge for what you use.

Don't kid yourself. These per-site charges are gonna be ADDED to what you're already paying.

If you think you're gonna be able to pay per-usage fees, you're sadly mistaken.

[Estolcles]

I think it's really nothing to worry about, honestly.

Shit, issues #1 and #2... anyone remember the days of dialup, when EQ was grand spankin' new, for a minute here? Hello the original Yahoo and AOL and local ISP shit.

It's just the next step of evolution of the net, just reusing the past.

*shrugs*

[Orruar]

Net neutrality warriors, quit your whining. We haven't had net neutrality rules for the past 10 years and have we seen all of these terrible things you claim will happen because they aren't implementing it now? ISPs are in the job of making money. To do that, they must have customers. If they implement draconian rules that people hate, they will not have customers. So will they implement these rules? Doubtful. People who don't understand remedial economics bore me.

We didn't create a Martian Missile Defense System this year, therefore we're going to be invaded my Martians!

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Estolcles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's really nothing to worry about, honestly.

Shit, issues #1 and #2... anyone remember the days of dialup, when EQ was grand spankin' new, for a minute here? Hello the original Yahoo and AOL and local ISP shit.

It's just the next step of evolution of the net, just reusing the past.

*shrugs*

Yah...I remember my first Compuserve bill too...

$600.00. For one month. Yay.

[Duie]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're not the only government that uses the internet, either. That's got to present some sort of problems.

Rules and Regulations for the internet and providers should be handled by something like the UN, not individual countries' governments.

The UN couldnt deside a way to get out of a wet paper bag and thats giving you have already punched a hole for them.


Pfft, the next thing you'll be saying is socailized medicine is a good thing

[Starklen]

Originally Posted by Duie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The UN couldnt deside a way to get out of a wet paper bag and thats giving you have already punched a hole for them.


Pfft, the next thing you'll be saying is socailized medicine is a good thing

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