Terror attack in Charleston

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The video was me being facetious, swish.

[Tradesonred]

This is part of Dylann Roof's manifesto

"The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored? "

Sounds familiar you armchair white supremacist psychos

[Doors]

Kid was obviously a loser. Dropped out of highschool in 9th grade, unintelligent trash.

Good riddance when they execute him.

[Lojik]

It's sickening to read about things like this happening. As disturbing as this crime is, I am also not a huge fan of how many people react to things like this. The more time people spend analyzing and discussing the perpetrators of these horrible crimes, then we're giving these people what they want: attention. Mourn the victims, talk about how great they were and how it's sad that they are no longer with us, but some people want to give the killer attention and start debating about if he's a terrorist or not, what the fuck is the point? To me if you simply label the guy a nutjob and dismiss him as almost less than human, then it's the best thing you can do along with punishing him according to the law. One of the things that helped to weaken the power of the KKK in the south was exposing their ridiculous rituals. Once it came out publicly many members were ashamed and stopped going back.

If you want to start to label him a terrorist and lump him in with Al Qaeda, then you're letting him win, you're almost lending his cause credence, as "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." Do you really want to give overtly racist people the idea that committing acts like this could somehow be a legitimate political means to the ends they want? He even says in his manifesto the event that triggered it was the media attention thrown at the Trayvon Martin case. If that case isn't given as much national attention, hell maybe this kid never goes over the edge. Maybe he just spraypaints "N*****" on someone's house, and either carries on with his racist beliefs or finally realizes he's fucking retarded. If media outlets start to talk about this as a terror attack, I really only see that having a negative effect.

I realize that this is only a game forum, but there are a good number of people who browse these forums and play here that have issues. Everquest is a game synonymous with dependency issues, and we've seen cases here that have translated into real world violence. There are clearly some overtly racist people here as well, so trying to label this guy a terrorist seems like a bad idea to me. Terrible human being? Yes. Mentally disturbed? Yes. Terrorist? Please, lets not give him that kind of credit

[Tradesonred]

Youre right about the freedom fighter terrorism thing, and its a polemic title, its meant to be.

Because from a black perspective, i dont see how they are expected to view things differently. These people are out to get them simply because they are black, and they adhere to a political program that wants to keep them subjugated, just as sure as i would get my head chopped off for dissing Mohammed by a Wahabist Saudi.

[Rararboker]

I like how you quote his "manifesto" (not sure the kid was smart enough to have a real one) but ignore his primary point in it all. His point was to spark a race war and reacting like this means you are doing exactly what the dumb kid wanted.

Who is the real dumdum?

[Omnifiend]

One thing skipped over a lot is the kid was on Suboxone, an opiate addiction treatment. However, the drug itself is more addicting that opiates themselves, and some of the side effects include violent outbursts and suicidal thoughts.

In fact, continuing in this vein, 35 of the most recent school and mass shooters have been on similar psychiatric drugs, all of which have side effects which can include violent tendencies and suicidal thoughts.

My prayers go out to the families affected by this, however I firmly believe we need to take a very hard look at what drugs are being given to people and why. Numbers this large with those side effects can't be a coincidence.

Source - http://http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/ http://www.drugs.com/suboxone.html

One last thing. Racism is a real problem, and it makes no sense at all to hate someone because of their color. Hate them for their actions, assuming their actions deserve an emotion as strong as hate. And yes, sometimes someones actions do deserve hate, if they are evil enough.

[Madbad]

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[MrSparkle001]

I'm not sure how people don't see him as a terrorist. Yeah he's not on the level of Al Qaeda or ISIS but this was definitely an act of domestic terror.

We'll see if the prosecution wants to pursue terrorism charges, if they haven't already decided.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure how people don't see him as a terrorist. Yeah he's not on the level of Al Qaeda or ISIS but this was definitely an act of domestic terror.

We'll see if the prosecution wants to pursue terrorism charges, if they haven't already decided.

Yeah. I'd have to agree. He picked the oldest black church in the south, a bastion of the civil rights movement, to incite unrest/fear. Pretty cut and dry terrorism, IMO. The kid was a sociopath.