Archery

[mystang89]

I wouldn't mind the /auto fire, i've already made that clear, but if you bind the ranged hotkey to a button then spamming that button acts the same. However, getting haste working correctly should be something that after 4 years of kunark being out got fixed.

Can we get some info on how this is coming along please? Can we expect a fix when velious released?

[Thulack]

Really while its nice this bug was found it really doesnt make a large difference in the end of things. Archery STILL isnt going to viable vs melee unless you are using trueshot. And to answer original OP. You can have all those things and archery still wont come close to melee. Respectable? maybe but optimal? Never

[eqgmrdbz]

Thulack

Really while its nice this bug was found it really doesnt make a large difference in the end of things. Archery STILL isnt going to viable vs melee unless you are using trueshot. And to answer original OP. You can have all those things and archery still wont come close to melee. Respectable? maybe but optimal? Never

What the hell are you talking about, Cecily already showed with 50% haste, her Windstriker went from 6 to 4 sec delay between shots, add 40% worn haste and Quiver haste, and it could go down to 2 seconds. I already said Archery was never going to be like AA's, but that doesnt mean we cant get it to respectable levels. Lets say average dmg of 100, you will be doing 1000dmg a minute the way things are now, but if this gets fixed and after Velious launch the damage would be 3000, that's a hell of an improvement.

[Ciroco]

Worn + spell + quiver haste still shouldn't be able to exceed 100% as far as I know, so 3 seconds would be the minimum with a Windstriker without overhaste.

Still, this is a big deal.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by eqgmrdbz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thulack

What the hell are you talking about, Cecily already showed with 50% haste, her Windstriker went from 6 to 4 sec delay between shots, add 40% worn haste and Quiver haste, and it could go down to 2 seconds. I already said Archery was never going to be like AA's, but that doesnt mean we cant get it to respectable levels. Lets say average dmg of 100, you will be doing 1000dmg a minute the way things are now, but if this gets fixed and after Velious launch the damage would be 3000, that's a hell of an improvement.

You asked if it would be respectable. I said yes. But you still arent going to use it over melee when melee is a option. If you are using archery when meleeing is a option you are just being a bad ranger. ONLY exception to this is with Trueshot running(come velious). If your only option is archery then do what you must but its never going to come close to matching melee which is what you originally asked.

[mystang89]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You asked if it would be respectable. I said yes. But you still arent going to use it over melee when melee is a option. If you are using archery when meleeing is a option you are just being a bad ranger. ONLY exception to this is with Trueshot running(come velious). If your only option is archery then do what you must but its never going to come close to matching melee which is what you originally asked.

Or you're just playing another aspect of the class the way you want to play it, not the way others want you too.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by mystang89 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you're just playing another aspect of the class the way you want to play it, not the way others want you too.

If 40+ other people are using their time to accomplish something damn right i'm going to use the optimal way to play a toon and not waste 40 peoples time.

[ghost182]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If 40+ other people are using their time to accomplish something damn right i'm going to use the optimal way to play a toon and not waste 40 peoples time.

sorry but do you really feel that if the wopping 2-3 rangers on a raid decided they wanted to hang back, use archery, squeeze some nukes in, and patch heal greater heals around it would change the outcome of any raid? i highly doubt that.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by ghost182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry but do you really feel that if the wopping 2-3 rangers on a raid decided they wanted to hang back, use archery, squeeze some nukes in, and patch heal greater heals around it would change the outcome of any raid? i highly doubt that.

Tell that to the guild after you wipe to something at under 5%. You got 3 rangers man and your going to waste your time using archery? If you really want to be a archer ranger to play on project 2002 where you will actually have aa's and good dmg from archery. Up til Luclin Archery for a ranger is VERY situational and of not much use compared to melee in most instances.

[ghost182]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell that to the guild after you wipe to something at under 5%. You got 3 rangers man and your going to waste your time using archery? If you really want to be a archer ranger to play on project 2002 where you will actually have aa's and good dmg from archery. Up til Luclin Archery for a ranger is VERY situational and of not much use compared to melee in most instances.

then every ranger should re roll to rogue to best optimize melee dps if that's the end all goal, no?